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Originally Posted by Snaggles
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Toxigen will have to clarify what he said but I didnt assume he meant only pre-60 since he didn’t say that.
Yea innate regen is only 8hp/tick. Most “serious shamans” once they get torp drop the Fungi tunic and stop casting regrowth. So as mentioned, it’s about FT15-18. Without canni if not always full health it’s 22,800hps an hour, or roughly 40% of that in mana. If you still cast regrowth and have a fungi then it’s quite a bit less.
IMHO for most stuff, a fungi tunic and staff would be ideal kit pieces for any shaman. Torp or not. Innate regen is something. Especially if sitting down for quick afks on occasion.
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I agree with you that Fungi Staff is still nice on a Torpor Shaman. I have one bagged myself. Fungi Tunic isn't as great because Vindi BP is generally better on a Torpor Shaman. Vindi BP is better at reducing damage spikes. Fungi Staff is a clickie, so you can wear your weapons and use Fungi Staff simultaneously. Unfortunately you cannot wear Fungi Tunic and Vindi BP at the same time. You have to pick one.
I am not sure why you keep mentioning Fungi Tunic and Fungi Staff. They aren't relevant to the racial discussion because all Shaman races can use both. I already outlined how much benefit you get from Iksar/Troll Regeneration specifically on a Torpor Shaman. Iksar/Troll Regeneration is basically the equivalent of FT1 on a Torpor Shaman if you want to compare it to Flowing Thought.
Your Flowing Thought calculations are off for a Torpor Shaman specially. Your FT15-18 idea comes from a Pre-Torpor Shaman who is never at 100% HP.
Fungi Tunic + Fungi Staff is +30 HP Regeneration. That is 30 x 10 x 60 = 18000 HP per hour, assuming you are never at 100%. 18000 HP / 1200 HP (Torpor) = 15 casts of Torpor per hour to get the same amount of HP. If you get 1500 HP Torpors, that is 12 casts of Torpor per hour.
12-15 casts of Torpor with Alteration Specialization = 2160-2700 Mana spent per hour on a Torpor Shaman. 2160 / 600 (Mana gained per hour from FT1) = 3.6, and 2700 / 600 (Mana gained per hour from FT1) = 4.5. Fungi Staff is also FT2 in terms of saving the mana you need to cast on Regrowth. That means Fungi Tunic + Fungi Staff is somewhere between FT5.6 and FT6.5 on a Torpor Shaman, depending on your Torpor Ticks. Realistically it is lower since a Torpor Shaman is at 100% HP and Mana out of combat. Fungi Tunic + Fungi Staff is probably more like FT4 on average for a Torpor Shaman.