[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so he's talking about PVP? Ok, I can see warrior weapon twisting working in PVP where every little HP matters.

PVE still useless.

It's better for PVE than PVP (very bizarre how you think DPS is "useless"), since NPC's generally are standing still. Still useful for PVP though, particularly when landing a stun or when someone is casting.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of the time, offhand is going to swing almost immediately after you unequip main, so you don't have time to swap in a weapon.

That's not how it works. You don't auto attack while taking off the primary weapon.

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so DPS for a ranger involves an argent protector. (Lol). 42/49 or 2.5 second delay.
“Best offhand ratio” is a Scimiter of the Emerald Dawn @ 20/34 (it isn’t).
A Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn drops to 17 delay (1.7 seconds).
That gives you .8 seconds to swap weapons and get a swing off before you miss a MH AP swing, or at least delay it

You don't understand the mechanic. The offhand weapon swings right after you equip it and press the attack button. As 7thGate said, the offhand weapon used while "Two-hander dual wielding" ends up having the same delay as your 2-hander, so what matters is the damage on the offhand weapon. Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn is the best.

The offhand weapon does need to have a somewhat lower delay then the two-hander still, so there isn't a timing issue of swapping a bit later on one round and missing out on the offhand swing because of it. The delay of the Scimitar is sufficient meet that requirement for a 42+ delay Two-hander.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe I have mel and the scimitar on Jimjam. I can probably test on him (warrior) rather than ranger.

Meljeldin may run into some trouble with the Scimitar if you're trying with high haste. 38 delay leaves very little wiggle room, both for swapping back to the primary in time for that attack round, and the timing of swapping to the offhand. If you are a bit slow to offhand swap on a certain round, then the next round your offhand timer can be slightly delayed, causing you to either miss the offhand that round or wait too long and delay the primary swing.

I think a weapon with at least 42 delay is needed if having high haste. Or, if you can manage to always primary swap in time with a 38 delay two-hander and high haste, an offhand with a bit of a lower delay than 34 may still need to be used. Very interested to see you experiment with it!