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Originally Posted by Vormotus
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To be honest, The Adversary is in short a Servant of the Creator that is tasked to incentivize the natural evil inclination native and 100% natural to man, he hates us as much as 0, and in very old hebrew texts he even loathes the job.
The Satan you describe is a modern retelling of the Milton one (which in turn is a further reconstruction of the dark ages adversary, which in turn was a corruption of the Demiruge/Yaldabaoth of the mediterranean gnostics during the 1st Century CE), that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the original idea of the "Enemy" and so abused by Hollywood to be able to give a modicum of backstory to their horror blockbuster films.
This whole notion of demiplanes filled to the brim with demons is also more asian than european, as on this side we actually had quite entertaining and fully flawed gods, godlings and fickle entities.
Christianity on the whole, specially the USA versions that spawned there, are quite frankly literal fanfiction converted into canon (not leaving catholicism behind, which has a metric truckload of bad takes, made to convenience exegesis and a lot of very much human, and not demonic, corruption, greed and need to control behind it).
It is better to be an optmistic nihilist than a fervent believer in a demon spawned hellscape on earth, but again, thats is my own take.
It is honestly entertaining though, and I wish you peace and happiness. Also the internet is not a very good place to discuss these beliefs, as you will find as many adherents as detractors. Not very healthy either.
It is my sincere wish you find peace, both here and in the afterlife you believe in, life is too short to get lost in minutiae of dogma and spend it cloistered behind mental prison bars where only other inmates of the same prison can come visit in.
Be well man, super hug to you.
Again, this is more or less my take, it would be terrible to live in a world where man made demons, like Vancian ones from Dying Earth have rule or sway over creation, but hey, everyone is free to believe in their own backstory of choice.
I fully respect everyones opinion on the issue.
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I actually got into this a lot and I don't want to like, totally disagree with your take. However...
I feel like Satan and demons and devils are real. I feel you on the Asian multiverse of demiplanes and heals and heavens and multitudes of evil entities. However science is ironically proving this true with the many univiverses and quantum theory and the mathematic probabilities of holography.
I feel like there is more truth in the Bible and biblical stuff even the bastardized and corrupt Hollywood stuff than just throwing my hands in the air and saying strate up the prophets and angels are aliens.
I believe g-d gives every righteous and genuine Christian who worked hard a choice and in the end we can all personally choose the eternal death of our own egos granted us by G-d. On judgement day. He will also not torment unbelievers in hell eternally against their will.
An unbeliever may choose to do this to themselves. However.
I appreciate the dialogue. Ur just a bit toooo highbrow and knowing for me to fully track.
Biblical stuff works great for a subset of people who really need it and that is what they are capable of (Aussenseiter's pick up sticks, likely at me).
It's part of G-d's plan and so is creepy ass Hollywood.
Like I get where ur coming from maybe. Don't waste hours of ur life on my post history trying to figure out my take. The Bible is supposed to be there to help get ppl on the same page and guide them.
It's many versions should definitely be preserved historically.