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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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Based on the data I've seen they are not top tier DPS.
Your own data shows your pet doing around 67 DPS in Crypt, which is consistently being out-done by the Enchanter. With Nukes you are doing basically 100 DPS, + 18 DPS or so with DS, assuming the optimal scenario for DS.
Rogues are going to be doing higher damage than that too on blue mobs. As I said before, the last Rogue I parsed in Crypt was doing around 133 DPS on blue mobs.
The Rogue you are grouping with is level 52. They might have been lower when you grouped with them, as they started at 49 today. This means your DPS is going to be higher naturally. They have Epic and a 0.5 ratio weapon in offhand.
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You edited out the discussion in the parses you quoted from me. Original source can be found here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...406923&page=19
Starting with this line of posts:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=181
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Originally Posted by Troxx
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Bear in mind that things get weird when you combine fights. Actual dps levels for everyone involved (scaled or otherwise) are below actual real time values parsed.
I have highlighted myself and my 60 water pet unfocused.
Xeff: high level sk well geared; engaged first always
Grandmaster: 60 monk with tunare's fist of tunare and priceless velium wraps 15/20
Konober and Kekab: epic mage pet from another epic. I can only guess he didn't mask it or keep it hasted like it should have been.
Comparatively Ailowen + unfocused 60 water pet is the highlighted above.
See the monk's time engaged and you can see why he was below the SK and lower than me to such a degree; he spent a lot of time not engaged. What you can see is that mage dps is very good. This parse undervalues on the combine by a good 30% as my parse system is not perfect.
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Keep in mind, I pointed out how gamparse gets weird when you compile multiple fights. What you can see, however, is how the total damage done panned out.
This monk was level 60 with tunare fists and 15/20 offhand (Grandmasterr). Xeff was a level 60 velious raid geared sk.
You then were all “Aha! You only did 80dps” based off the compiles despite being told why everyone’s was artificially low. 6 pages later I gave you samples of single target fights.
The next line of posts/parses you quoted can be found on this page:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...406923&page=25
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Originally Posted by Troxx
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Just got home from work. Want singles broken out not compiled? Heres a few
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Later on in same group after I had to make a new pet. I call this series "omg the mage out-dps'd the enchanter pet!
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Look man they just go on and on and all mostly look like this except the fights where I had to step away to take a pee or do something for my kid. I never got close to running out of mana the whole time we were down there. I told you it looks goofy and gets all skewed when you just do a mass fight compile.
Mages are excellent group dps.
Shamans ... are not. You don't invite shamans to the group for dps. You invite them for all the lovely things they do so absolutely well. Strong class, but not strong dps in a fast moving group setting. None of these mobs would have lived long enough for you to get any meaningful damage from your dots ... so you'd be left with JBB clicks and otherwise 'meh' nukes and a weakling pet.
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These breakaway parses from the aggregate were to show you how gamparse gets goofy on big compiles and to show you that everyone’s dps was actually a lot higher than the aggregate.
Bear in mind this was all part of a 449 page thread where you were insisting shamans could compete with mages in a high dps, fast moving theoretical caster group of 4 that included 2 hasted quadding charm pets and a cleric … with either a mage or a shaman as the 4th.