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Concern about the climate takes up far more of our zeitgeist than it should.
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Absolutely agree with you lune no snark..
I do get a huge chuckle about cool pictures of dual big tropical storm systems tho
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Originally Posted by Trexller
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no, Lune is correct
to say, "oh everyone but you" is childish, and reflects great immaturity, this is not a statement of individuals but the population as a whole, there is no favoritism, this is indifference.
anyone who doesn't recognize the overpopulation issue, is not mentally addressing it in scale to the planet. Elon Musk fails to understand, not by lack of ability but personal refusal. might be like the only thing I disagree with him on. Musk is also one of the only legit capitalists (meaning, you earn money by simply having alot of money), and population growth is directly commensurate with economic growth.
a guy like Musk looks at the world and sees populations dropping globally, to him that means less income.
if you allow yourself to address population concerns on the scale at which they occur, a real problem arises that is not any more difficult to understand than arithmetic. Every living being requires X amount of land to produce their food, their energy, and whatever else they want from the planet. Land space is finite, regardless of how efficiently that you use it.
Forget fossil fuels, imagine 8 billion people burning wood for their primary source of heat and mechanical energy. All trees would have been gone decades ago, which would have led to ecosystem collapse.
There are going to be many different estimates of what is the X amount of land required for each human, and everyone will lose the point splitting hairs over the X value, at which point they all forgot what started the debate, which ironically was about there being too many people on earth.
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What people like musk fail to see (because they don't see it being a problem for themselves perhaps so just don't think in terms like you said) is that for the earth to host 1 person per square 10ft or 100ft or whatever (that would be a lot more ppl than we have r now) quality of life collectively would have to go down for everyone (including musk). So therefore --- and I agree with Lune on this one too.
To have a good quality of life for everyone, we need more land per person and more space per person than we currently do. We already cannot efficiently manage land. Industrialization helped a little bit (this is where Musk is coming from, trading an early grave/starvation/predation/freezing to death for abundent canned and processed food with a shelf life if 1000 years was good for a lot of peasents with no sanitation or metal /materials/ mined mountains of gypsum to make stuff out of).
Anyways.
I can't wait for the Sahara to be a tropical paradise again in this way I am rooting FOR climate change.
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You know they're food, right?
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POV: Soylent green, touche! (CHarlten Heston was also cute in that and he didn't even need to kiss a black woman (snark not racism you FOOLS (I'm pro the kiss in ::::The Omega Man:::
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