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Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, Lune is correct

to say, "oh everyone but you" is childish, and reflects great immaturity, this is not a statement of individuals but the population as a whole, there is no favoritism, this is indifference.

anyone who doesn't recognize the overpopulation issue, is not mentally addressing it in scale to the planet. Elon Musk fails to understand, not by lack of ability but personal refusal. might be like the only thing I disagree with him on. Musk is also one of the only legit capitalists (meaning, you earn money by simply having alot of money), and population growth is directly commensurate with economic growth.

a guy like Musk looks at the world and sees populations dropping globally, to him that means less income.

if you allow yourself to address population concerns on the scale at which they occur, a real problem arises that is not any more difficult to understand than arithmetic. Every living being requires X amount of land to produce their food, their energy, and whatever else they want from the planet. Land space is finite, regardless of how efficiently that you use it.

Forget fossil fuels, imagine 8 billion people burning wood for their primary source of heat and mechanical energy. All trees would have been gone decades ago, which would have led to ecosystem collapse.

There are going to be many different estimates of what is the X amount of land required for each human, and everyone will lose the point splitting hairs over the X value, at which point they all forgot what started the debate, which ironically was about there being too many people on earth.

Malthusians r ghey