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Originally Posted by Ooloo
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No it won't. This case is even more ridiculous than the documents case. The documents case he at least technically did something kind of illegal, though I don't think he understood he was doing anything illegal.
This case you basically have to read his mind and claim he knew he lost when there's basically zero evidence he thought he lost, and a mountain of evidence that he thought he won. If the trial is even remotely fair, there's essentially no way for the prosecution to prove anything.
These people are deranged, completely partisan, and have no interest in actual justice. It's a huge dog and pony show.
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So you're assuming propriety on behalf of Trump, and impropriety on behalf of "various actors", to make the point: "This is a sham trial because Trump is so clearly innocent and those 'various actors' are so clearly nefarious!" Wow, great point! Even if it were just about the phone call there could be a case. Unfortunately for him, I think it's also about the trump allies on film in Coffee County, Georgia illegally accessing voting machines, as well as plotting between Trump and his cronies to create fake, pro-Trump electors in Georgia, in addition to the phone call. Giuliani specifically, acting as Trump's lawyer, is in trouble for drafting fraudulent certificates of ascertainment and trying to get Georgia officials to sign them. Coupled with the phone call from Trump, that could very well be racketeering.
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Originally Posted by Ooloo
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"Find the votes" does not mean "fabricate fake votes". It means literally find the votes that are legitimate, and exist, and aren't being counted due to impropriety by various actors. The entire phonecall he was alleging fraud. It makes no sense to allege fraud while also acknowledging you lost legitimately.
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During the call, Trump falsely implied Raffensperger could have committed a criminal offense by refusing to overturn Georgia's election results in Trump's favor. Then why the fuck was he asking specifically for the number of votes he had lost by, plus one? Trump gave him a specific number of votes he wanted him to find lol.
"What I want to do is this. I just want to
find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than (the 11,779 vote margin of defeat) we have,
because we won the state."
Add all these things up and you've got some RICO predicates. Whether this goes anywhere is going to depend on the evidence they have, which we don't know the full extent of. But given they have hard video evidence of at least one of the RICO predicates.....