Thank you for responding in a conversational manner.
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Originally Posted by Croco
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Just because you keep saying a thing does not make it true. This is one of the problems with your style of debate. You say these things that are opinion, and you expect all of us to just take them at face value as the word of god and to not even attempt to disagree with you. Yes I know you didn't specifically say that but that is how many of us interpret what and how you say things.
Your opinions are not law. Just because you say something is silly doesn't make it so. People are allowed to compare and debate anything they want. It's not unreasonable to compare Regrowth to Torpor because at a base level they do the exact same thing, regenerate hit points. Your debate and conversation style is the very definition of 'intellectual dishonesty'.
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This is projection. Often times other posters (including yourself) do this. You will proclaim what you say is correct, and attack people who disagree with you. The proof is in your signature that you are doing this right now. A sincere person who wants to engage in debate does not stoop to petty nonsense like typing "do not trust X poster" in your signature.
You are conflating what facts and opinions are. If I show the math that Regrowth is only providing a 5% boost to Regeneration when using Torpor, that is a fact. I am not forcing my opinion on you, I am providing you a fact. If I provide video evidence of a fight where extra Regeneration would not have helped win the fight, that is a fact. One that goes beyond theory.
When someone provides a multitude of facts to back up a claim, the proper response is to provide counter evidence if you think my evidence is faulty. Resorting to insults and fallacies is not the solution. When you do this, you simply give the appearance of being unable to admit you may be wrong when confronted with the evidence.
I am not saying you cannot debate things. But it is not good to post objectively incorrect ideas and try to pass them off as objectively correct simply because you like having a debate. If there is a factual answer to the question, it should be provided. Trying to compare Regrowth to Torpor is objectively a bad idea, because they serve two different purposes. Regrowth is there to provide small amounts of HP that add up over time. Torpor is there to heal a large portion of health over a short period of time. People do not compare Complete Heal to Regrowth for the same reason. They have two different purposes, even though functionally they do the same thing; Increase your HP.
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Originally Posted by Croco
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You pretty constantly take peoples reasonable interpretations and reading between the lines of what you say and throw it back, "I never said that, you're putting words in my mouth", "Show me where I said that". Then you turn around and do the exact same thing back to us by telling us that we have admitted to this or that when we never did so. You can interpret from our words and actions what you think we have said but you can't then come and say "Thank you for admitting..." when we never admitted anything. That might be what has happened in your mind but that's not what has happened in actual real life. If you go back and read through this thread you're the only one with this style of writing/debating where you state something as fact that someone has not said or admitted to. You can read between the lines and correlate many things that someone has said to come up with your own understanding of what you think they are saying beyond the actual written words but it is beyond dishonest to then state that said person has 'admitted' anything outright and you do this CONSTANTLY.
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The problem here is you think people are providing "reasonable interpretations". That is very generous.
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Originally Posted by Crede
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Exactly! It’s because of people like DSM who just keep spreading bad advice. He will sit here and say 20 int iis useful but regen isn’t, lol.
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There is no way you can interpret my posts to think I said something like this. It is a blatant strawman and a lie. There are many more examples of posters doing this sort of nonsense. This is an example of people putting words in my mouth.
I am not saying I am perfect, and always get things correct. If I have put words in your mouth, you can clarify your statement and I will apologize. I will extend that courtesy to you, even though you seem unwilling to do the same.
People do admit to things by saying them plainly:
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Originally Posted by Gloomlord
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It is irrelevant my posts here are not about the topic at hand. I came to criticise your lack of integrity. Does this matter?
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That is a plain text admission of insulting and trolling someone. It is the definition in fact. Remember that I cannot see your face or hear your tone of voice. If this was supposed to be a joke or something else, there is no way to know with the little text given. Do not blame me for terse responses that have little context.
The difference between myself and the troll posters is I actually provide evidence to back up my claims, instead of insults and fallacies. Please do not assume everybody's opinions are equal when one person has evidence and the other does not. Evidence does not automatically equate to being correct, but it makes for a much stronger case than simply calling another person stupid.