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Old 08-14-2023, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'm not saying your experience is worse than mine, merely ours are different. We clearly play and gear differently, which produces different results.

By combining our experiences we have a bigger dataset. I in no way meant to demean your experiences, particularly because I've been actually looking at your experiences you've reported and seeing how they match or mismatch my own knowledge and experience.

I never said starting stats don't matter. I was explaining the context of something which you keep getting hung up on, and tbh you seem to be saying it about dumping str.

You keep telling me to stop participating in the discussion, which is the forum equivalent of telling someone to shut up.

Imo the entire point of discussion is to explore and argue ideas, it would not be ideal for people lacking knowledge to take part. In fact, such participance is a great way to have a fresh set of eyes, ask questions and improve knowledge. I mean you don't know the full code of the game, yet keep posting. Should you relent posting just because you don't know the full details of how str impacts the game? I suggest not. You clearly have a lot of knowledge to share and it would be a shame if you weren't to ever post again!


Perhaps I made a mistake to have mirrored your language in the use of the word 'guessing'. I didn't mean guess as 'completely fabricated from nothing'. TBH I feel a little bit like you may have set a trap there by using the word then latching on to it so hard after I repeated it.

For clarity, I meant guess as 'make an inference based on the limited information we all have'.

Edit: i don't mean to denounce your parses - I'm not saying they are worthless, merely acknowledging the limitations. That is normal to do when discussing a dataset. Don't take it as an insult as your parse is very good.
I apologize if I sound mean. That isn't my intent, I simply have to defend myself from trolls. There are multiple people trolling and attacking this thread, so it can sometimes be difficult to determine if you are being sincere or not. Posters like Troxx are certainly not being sincere.

You are putting words in my mouth. I am not telling you to stop participating.

I have not set any traps for anybody. You have simply admitted that you do not have a factual basis upon which to base your current claims. I appreciate that you are willing to admit that. You are doing what most people in this thread cannot, which is awesome!

If you want to bring meaningful discussion to a factual conversation, you need to provide evidence. That is all I am asking. You are confusing people by trying to say "20 STR is going to give you a noticeable boost to DPS". You do not know this by your own admission, and therefore you should not say it in a manner that sounds like it is a fact.

You can say it is your guess and opinion that the DPS boost from 20 STR would be significant. That way people know you are not making a statement of fact. There is nothing wrong with that. Then people can look at the evidence I have provided, and the opinions you have provided, and make a decision. Or even better, you provide evidence proving your claim, so we can all benefit from the knowledge. You need to understand that I would love to be proven wrong. If we can get concrete evidence one way or the other, it will help everybody.

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Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
DSM can you post your turtle logs? I'd like to do some parsing.

Also, open invitation: if anyone wants to do some strength testing I'm happy to provide a healer.
They are already posted!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=300

Links to the logs are in the descriptions of the youtube videos I have provided. The post above links to another earlier post I made which explained the DPS videos. That is where the video are linked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ouLQOBAoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py96jk2NflU

Here are the video links directly.
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