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Old 08-14-2023, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
My guess is based on extensive reading, past parsing, first hand experience and the evidence presented in this thread. Particularly mr turtle.
I also have extensive first hand experience, past parsing, and evidence. I am not sure why you can just assume it is greater than my own. You haven't provided any evidence, and are at a disadvantage.

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Earlier you demanded i provided full code, arguing it would be trivial. Telling me (again) to shut up cos I didn’t (and won’t) is a bit extreme. I don’t have p99’s server side stuff and a big part of these discussions is to look at the limited evidence and work together to draw conclusions.
Please stop assuming I am telling you to shut up. I didn't say that. I am asking you to stop posting things that you do not know, while trying to pass it off as if it as factual. You do not know that 20 STR will provide enough of a DPS boost to be meaningful to OP.

https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/blob...one/attack.cpp

The EQEMU source code is available. P99 is based off of this code. I can show you the P99 max damage formula is unchanged when compared to the EQEMU code:

Damage Table for a level 60: { 285 Max Extra, 23 Chance, 65 Minusfactor }

1. 225 Offense Skill + ((2 * 231 Strength - 150) / 3) + 21 ATK (1x AoB item + Firefist) = 350.
2a. 350 - 65 (Minusfactor from damage table) = 285
2b. (285 / 2) + 100 = 242.5
2c. ((46 Weapon Damage * 2) * 242.5) / 100 = 223.1
2d. Add 2h damage table bonus. Total is 37 according to https://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1 (this includes the formula 3 + ((60 level - 28) / 3) + ((44 delay - 40) / 3)). 37 + 223.1 = 260.1

My highest damage hit on the turtle parses was 258, so this lines up so far when 260 max damage is what the formula came up with.

You can look through the code and show us where your assumptions are coming from.

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JSYK, when people say stats don’t matter they are being hyperbolic. Basically making your point that a dps increase from str will be small (just like the benefit of 20 int imo).
If you are being hyperbolic, new players may not KNOW you are being hyperbolic. Please stop saying "starting stats do not matter", and then proceed to show why STR is going to matter. Either it does, or it doesn't. Pick a side and bring evidence.

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3) (flawed) parses showing 4.3% increase (I’m looking forward to doing my own investigations).
You keep denouncing my parses, but refuse to give any of your own. I never said my parses were perfect, but right now they are much better than your admitted guessing. I would love to see your data when it comes out!
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