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The benefit of ogre over iksar is irrelevant as the OP expressed their focus on the Greenmist. Are you seriously suggesting the ogre should faction iksar and do the quest just to bank it?!
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I said OP understands that he is losing 60 STR by picking Iksar over Ogre. You do not need to read farther into it. I am not sure where you are getting this idea of doing Greenmist and banking it. Nobody suggested that.
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arguably the +20 starting strength wasn't important because your buffs could fix it... BUT not every situation is going to have a strength buffer. Also, how was the ogre geared? perhaps he DID be crazy enough to put starting strenght?!
Also, the need for buffs you describe highlights a big disadvantage of using buffs to offset lack of spending points on starting strength. Those points can't be dispelled or overridden by debuffs.
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Debuffs are much more dangerous for your other buffs, not STR buffs. Losing haste is a much bigger deal for your DPS. If someone needs a STR buff to run back to a vendor, it is unlikely they are getting dispelled.
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Regarding encumbrance, if you were at 100+ on your monk, you would have been over 150+ on an equivalent SK, potentially pushing it in to encumbrance.
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You can be over encumbrance and not lose your run speed, so that isn't an issue either. Being 20 stone over with 140ish STR is not a big deal.
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You haven't posted any evidence to back up your claim that you wouldn't have done better with 160 str than 140.
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I posted my leveling speeds, which was 1 level an hour. A small DPS increase wouldn't have significantly reduced this number. Is it hard data? No, but people are keen on bringing in their personal experiences. There is no reason why I cannot do the same. I would be happy to be proven wrong if someone can bring more concrete data than personal experience.
The posters who are claiming that +20 STR will give a significant boost to DPS need to provide evidence for their claim. Thus far they have not. I am the only person providing counter evidence against that claim, as well as evidence supporting my claim.
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Furthermore, your unsupported argument that '140 str squelches any AC xp mobs have, so adding strength wouldn't accomplish anything' actually undermines your demonstration of mr turtle's strength derived dps increase. This happens through two ways - 1) you admit it is possible to cap out the attack/mitigation roll and in these situations any change in dps would be marginal (basically improvements to the max hit / di multiplier). 2) therefore there are situations where attack isn't swamping mitigation and str derived attack improvements will provide more dps. I'll try get back to you in a month or so. If you could be so kind, do remind me.
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I didn't say anything about 140 STR squelching AC lol. I said that the DPS increase from +20 STR based on the data thus far is not significant enough for players to notice. Please read more carefully and stop making these wild claims about what other people say. It just causes more confusion.