[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did I say your monks DPS was bad? Still putting words in peoples hands, I see.

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Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that you think your monks dps is fine with 140 STR honestly means nothing.

You seem to be suggesting that the DPS isn't very good, I simply have the opinion it's good. You can clarify what you meant if I am misunderstanding.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could easily prove that 30 STR increases DPS. This is an objective fact, more attack will lead to more max hits, lol. I'm not sure why you're even questioning this. You will kill mobs faster, thus leading to more mobs killed per play session, thus leading to more xp. This really isn't debatable, nor does it have to be proven. It's already been proven. And leveling speed is only a small part of the equation. Making sure you are str capped will ensure the raid is capitalizing on dps, which is critical.

Nobody said that STR doesn't increase DPS. Nor did anybody say you need to prove that part with data. You are the one suggesting it will be noticeable enough to significantly improve your XP per hour. It is up to you to prove how much of an improvement 30 STR is to your DPS during the leveling process. Min/maxing the leveling process isn't ideal anyway, so I don't know why you care that much about it. If you want to level quickly, you should worry about what your stats mean at level 60. At level 60 you will easily be STR capped with Buffs on a group dependent class (which means you will probably be buffed).

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

STA being the harder stat to cap while also being a useful stat does not make it the best min/max stat. Min/max would put you in velious gear, capping Stamina. The correct answer here is CHA, and there are uses for it. Occasional DI, vendor prices, etc. You can't actually prove there's any use to capping STA. It's a hypothetical chance that it will save your life with more hp, it would be impossible to quantify the benefit as there are too many variants, so you're left with just magelo flexing, which CHA would be better for. In fact we could actually measure the CHA benefit more effectively too. It will lead to more pp over time selling to vendors.

I said CHA is a viable candidate if Rogues actually get DIed. I simply don't know how often that actually happens. At least you agree STR is no longer the best option here.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you can actually prove that more STA has saved X amount of lives resulting in Y extra dps, it's simply a dick measuring magelo stat, as I said many pages ago.

I'm not continuing this debate with you, as you will constantly make things up with napkin math saying ludicrous things like STR doesn't do anything after 140 because my EC geared monk already does fine dps, lol.

You are putting words in my mouth by claiming I said 140 STR is some sort of cap. Why do you say nonsense like this? I simply said my Monk is doing good DPS at 140 Strength, and leveling quickly. Max HP can save your life, this is a fact. I didn't say it was a high percentage chance.