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Originally Posted by Ooloo
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Yes we've all heard that stupid george carlin routine. Being alive and struggling is still better than being killed without any say in the matter. Lots of people born into terrible circumstances end up doing amazing things in the world. And again, tons of people want to adopt kids. If you don't wanna take care of it, fine, give it to somebody who does instead of killing it. Maybe he or she will invent the cure for cancer some day, who knows?
And how do you know abortion restrictions are "purposely timed" so that women don't know they're pregnant? It could be the case (and is) that they're giving you a window in which to just take a god damn pregnancy test and you can still kill your baby, as long as it's before 12 weeks or whatever the particular window is. I haven't heard of any 6 week abortion bans btw.
And yes I am arguing in good faith. How am I not? Please tell me the "good faith" argument against abortion so I understand.
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It's not a stupid argument though. If we're so concerned about the well being of an unborn child that we want to ban abortion, then we should follow through with appropriate social measures/funding to ensure that child can have the best life it possibly can. It rings false and disingenuous when we want to wash our hands of any responsibility to help the children once they're actually born, and it basically just makes the whole sanctity of life argument not a good faith argument.
As for the 6 week bills, they were drafted that way because it would be much easier to challenge an outright 100% ban on abortion in the courts. Things like irregular periods, etc. can make someone totally unaware they are pregnant at 6 weeks and therefore in practice you essentially have an outright ban on abortion without actually having to legislate a complete ban. I will give them credit, it's definitely a smart legal strategy. I'm also not sure how you haven't heard of them...like nearly a third of the states in the US have enacted them over the past few years.
What really gets me is the people who also want to ban any sort of contraceptives or birth control...like okay let's put out there that there's a hypothetical ban on abortion because all the people like you are like "well, don't fuck around and get pregnant accidentally and then want to kill your baby"....but then those same people also want to make it impossible to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place. The illogic.