[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The entire premise of leveling a character is to get to max level. That is not an arbitrary precondition. It is the goal of the leveling system, and why the game programmers put it in. Everquest was not designed around the concept that players will level to 30 and stop.

There is no purpose in efficiently leveling to 40 and then stopping. Trying to argue otherwise is nonsensical. If your group wants to do it for fun, great! It can be done with most 4 man groups without a problem.

How are your reading comprehension skills? Where has anybody indicated they are arguing that a group will get to a particular level and stop? I believe you may have constructed that man of straw yourself to argue against. If I am mistaken, please provide evidence to prove/justify your insinuation, otherwise it is unsubstantiated - and likely false as well as indeed a strawman.

Additionally, I provided the below direct responses already:

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are more reasons to play the game than "wanting to level to 60" even if eventually becoming level 60 is a product/result of playing the game. Regardless, even if "wanting to get to level 60" and "will eventually reach level 60" are accepted preconditions, the discussion is simply about the "best" 4 person all caster/priest group - and such a group will simply begin at level 1, without full spellbooks. Therefore:

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it could be argued that by insisting the conversation be focused solely (or even mostly) around the capabilities of classes at level 60 with full spellbooks that you are simply specifying a precondition designed to restrict the conversation to try and make a certain class (Shaman) favorable for specific scenarios (which the OP did not specify any, remember?) and that you are simply fervently trying to win the argument by creating a scenario where your favorite class is the best, and then using that to claim other classes can never be superior.