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Originally Posted by Patrece
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I'd love to blame this on Biden being weak and senile but it's not the case
This was intentional and mountains of our money went into getting hundreds of thousands of ppl killed/destroying a country instead of helping less fortunate and forgotten people struggling
Does the Ukraine virtue signaling make you sick yet? Now do you see why many of us are sick of globohobo?
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Originally Posted by Elizondo
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I am on the side of Peace
NATO's real purpose ended with the fall of the Soviet Union. Why the need to expand if The Cold War was over? Oh that's right. You need to keep the ponzi scheme of selling arms and weapons to countries in endless conflicts to keep the cash flow streaming into your coffers
Cold War over? Simple solution. Create a new one and you fell for it.
NATO made agreements with Russia going back 30 years that they would not expand.
Robert Gates has admitted this. Do you know who he is? He served under both Bush and Obama and said that NATO's aggressive expansion was a bad idea and clear overreach.
They've broken promise after promise. Seriously, when are you idiots going to wake up. You're falling into another Iraq War trap. These massive military budgets need endless conflict and perpetual wars.
We've been at war non stop since 9/11. Hello? Wake up
Who do you think it profiting? The same goons that goaded countries like Georgia and Ukraine into conflict with Russia
Nah it's just a word that means he's a globalist puppet touring the world in a sweater with his hand out. He's already embezzled hundreds of millions so he's getting PAID while the expendable people of Ukraine have their entire country blown to bits
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Russia fucking sucks, they are our enemy, they interfere in our elections, our culture, and they launch cyberattacks on us. They fund our enemies, put bounties on US soldiers, ally with our other more dangerous rivals, and are just generally a rotten shitstain on the world. It's worth every fucking penny to put Russian bodies in the ground, especially without exposing US troops directly.
If we get to break off a large piece of the former Russian sphere in Ukraine, and add it to our sphere of influence, all the better.
I would love it if we would stop spending all our money on the military and go back to some form of isolationism, sticking to our own hemisphere, and even to find a way to resolve the Taiwan issue peacefully. But the fact of the matter is, that's not going to happen. The US constitution and our political system in general are too deeply flawed for meaningful reform, we don't really have control over our own government or the power to draw down our outrageous military. So we might as well use it intelligently, and arming Ukraine is quite possibly the single greatest and most efficient opportunity to badly fuck over a major, hated geopolitical rival in our history as a country. Additionally, the unfortunate reality of the modern global economy is that our access to the natural resources that fuel our economy depends on our ability to swing our dick, and retreating into timid isolationism would have tremendous long term negative effects on our economy and standard of living, as China and other rivals swing their dicks to secure resources for themselves.
Bending over and letting Putin conquer Ukraine would have shown China that we have no resolve and no capability to defend our sphere of influence. Instead, we have put the scare into China to an incredible degree, demonstrating the power of our intelligence network, Western resolve to weather painful embargoes, and
our several generation old weapons, and we have resurrected a crumbling alliance in NATO that is vital as a counterbalance to China. Let's put it this way; I don't want to tangle with China, but if we're going to, we really need NATO to be solid and as strong as possible.
Trump, and by extension all his MAGA fanboys, are directly working against the strategic interests of the United States by trying to weaken NATO and bend over for Putin.