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Quite a few screenshots like the one above, where it can't be proven that the mob was charmed (as it could easily be aggroed onto a player instead), but the angle suggests it may have been attacking the raid target. That isn't to say it was commonplace though and of course better examples would need to be found.
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That's Kunark, like I said Enchanters charmed in Fear late in classic pre-Kunark with the help of dedicated teams. The power curve for charm gradually gets better over time. The problem is on P99 it starts at max power there is no curve. It should start as unusable not Velious era functionality.
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"You will be able to use your pet effectively possibly up through level 12, but afterwards charm is quite simply the better alternative."
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Yes, they said charm is better than their pet. Not other pet classes pets.
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Question is, was this before or after the nerf that prevented bards from charming raid targets? When bards were able to charm bosses in sky, not excluding Inte Akera, sure he would have put them in the same league as classic enchanters. And there's a fair amount of evidence to suggest bards were still able to charm targets up to 55 even after the nerf. If that ever gets patched in and there is a new green server, p99 bards might say it sounds like what you described.
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Bards did that about once or twice it wasn't a widespread thing it was immediately nerfed.
Those posts are from almost 6 months after Kunark launch.
Think of it this way...
March 1999 - EQ launches
April 2000 - Kunark released
December 2000 - Velious released
14 months of classic era then 8 months between Kunark and Velious, probably about 10-12 months of that time Charm should be unusable except for outdoor run speed boosted use or in situations where a group or raid is helping the Enchanter manage things. An Enchanter could not control a pet solo in a dungeon without dying more often than not.
Green launch, like I referred to before, had level 30 Enchanters using back stabbing goblin pets in sola soloing kindle area in 1-2 weeks. I know because I was there getting power leveled by them same as it progressed through HHK with Os backstabbing. I barely played the game and these high ZEM (also not classic by the way P99 is about double classic exp rates) Enchanter backstab groups got me to level 50 without even trying.
This isn't classic, at all, and it impacts the server FOREVER. Same as making The Hole a high ZEM zone flooded the market with loam armor that used to be expensive. These unclassic adjustments have an impact that can't be undone. I remember proof in bug report forums that exp rates were 2x too high and shortly after that is when they changed the ZEM zones. Rather than make things classic they just shifted the ZEMs around. Think of all the fine steel, item drops, and experience Enchanters alone bring to a just launched server in their non classic state. It is insane and sets the stage to trivialize Kunark/Velious as people race to get 5 alts on their account to max level.
Like I've said for whatever reason the staff wants people to level faster than is classic and stack up at raid level. That isn't something that can be argued when they increased spawn rates at launch and provided a second instanced server that they announced they intended to merge back into Green once the population spread out. When stuff like that happens you have to accept you're not playing a server that is trying to recreate classic anymore. The high ZEMs, Enchanter nonsense, and channeling are all examples of things that continue to promote non classic rates of leveling and it produces the raid scene you all know and love.
The raid scene on P99 is created by the project decisions which are not driven by a desire to recreate classic. Fast newbie zone spawn rates is not classic and it's not how you should launch a classic server. Anytime you want to believe there is something to debate about Enchanter just remember those spawn rates. Enchanter as it works at launch is not classic and as it plays level 1-50 is not classic either. Sure, halfway into Kunark and 50+ it works well enough. By then it's too late and the server has already severely departed from a global cassic situation in terms of money, items, and experience.
By the way on top of all this, almost every mechanism in classic EQ used to level fast or farm excessively has been nerfed on P99. Mage weapon procs, fine steel delay, Bard AE kiting, AE groups, unresistable lifetaps, certain proc items, etc. Even raid mechanics are severely nerfed. Somehow all of this which is classic has been nerfed away and now everyone sits around and basically gets carried by non classic Enchanters into a non classic raid scene flooded with power leveled newbs. A maddening situation for anyone who actually wants to play classic EQ.