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Originally Posted by Tiggles
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This is getting off topic
TMO was FTE, GOT XP and was awarded loot to Trakanon.
TR complained for 3 days straight and was able to convince gms to award loot from TMO to TR so they could feel better.
TR is filled with Boxers and Hackers
And they are all no life nerds
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I think the point that gets dropped from everyone's conversation is that Uthgaard was convinced that the 15-man-rule should still be enforced here. He decided to enforce it after-the-fact instead of having guides/GMs handle it on the spot. It's this rule that really fanned the flames of hate. FTE was what everyone was operating under and even the guide(s) present were calling for FTE.
I personally was pulling juggs/reet when prot spawned on top of me. Durison was logging in when Kins(I believe it was) pulled Prot. After prot died, TR and TMO both moved over to Tola en mass waiting for him to spawn and knowing that Trak was closing in on the window (6 hours?).
I think that it sucks that Uth sided with TR's 15-man claim, but he's the boss and there's nothing I can do about it -- those are the rules of the server and the GM thought there was enough evidence to overturn. I think the best thing that could happen in the short term is remove 15-man and just use FTE. It'll be a roll of the dice and if people want to sock, they're going to sock -- whether it be at spawn, at tola, at ledge or at jugg door. Everyone can join a casual guild if they don't want their guild to pressure them into being involved in raiding. I've posted a code-related change to alter the raid-mobs to make it a little bit better for the race, not change much but help prevent the final-spawn-socking in Nele's thread.