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Old 09-14-2022, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The rest is whatever, but, the point about warriors was that at low levels, pre-30ish, a twinked warrior levels faster than enchanters. If it's not faster, I'm sure it's quite close, but I'm pretty sure you could level a twinked warrior faster than you could level a twinked [any caster] because twinking melee characters is extremely powerful at low levels relative to casters.

Like, starting fresh twinked characters, the warrior would get a huge lead anyways because they basically insta-kill everything they touch until they're like level 15.

I don't care how you feel about DSM but people trying to say that low level twinked casters are somehow faster at soloing than twinked [any melee character] who have just way, way higher DPS and tankiness at those levels makes me think I'm taking crazy pills. Once the bullshit of twink gear fades, totally, I agree with you, the raw power of casters is just better, but low level mobs aren't really designed to handle the damage output of the dank ass weapons, haste, and regen items you can give melee characters.

I've never heard the take that low level melee twinks are bad at leveling, ever. Am I crazy? Like I honestly can't tell if this is just some stupid contrarian take because you don't like DSM or you've just never given a melee character dope gear and plowed through the beginning of the game before.
He specifically said no fungi/regen items. He had like 2 mediocre weapons and a SCHW and claimed to out solo an enchanter cause his DPS was higher than a charm pet in his mid 20s. First of all: debatable and depends on the charm pet and what weapons. You also have to consider damage caps for melee at low lvl limiting the effectiveness of twink weapons. He also openly admitted to not hasting his charm pets in this comparison. He also acted like it was an absurd idea that you could get free mage pet toys in EC for your charms. Something I did frequently when leveling my enc. None of that matters though cause fact of the matter is that without a fungi and the only twinking being weapons and a SCHW a warrior is going to have fairly large periods of downtime. The DPS could be 3x higher than a charm pet (it's not) and warrior would still lose due to downtime. There's no fucking chance a warrior solos with less downtime than an enc with no regen item or buffs. DSM in typical DSM fashion completely disregarded this and just kept talking about his questionable DPS data cause that's what suited his agenda at that particular moment. It changes frequently around here.

Everyone knows heavy twinking with fungi is a game changer. A fully twinked warrior with fungi almost certainly will solo more effectively in early levels. I'm not sure precisely when the enchanter would overtake warrior regardless of twink status. Probably somewhere around low-mid 30s? Certainly by 40 a well played enc is clowning a warrior no matter what they're wearing. Charm pets start to scale and become significantly more powerful than melee players of equivalent level. Also the effectiveness of a fungi tunic gets significantly weaker the higher level you get. Unless you're soloing weak LB's for minimal xp you're still going to have way more downtime than enc. Prolly more downtime even killing LB's at 40+
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1: Mage is a better group DPS class than Shaman
2: Enchanters solo better than Warriors

These statements are not up for debate amongst sane human beings
Why does <Vanquish> allow DSM to be a member?
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