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Originally Posted by PlsNoBan
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I never denied that safety matters. The cleric provides plenty of it and it does not stack infinitely as DPS does. You would not bring 3 clerics to a group for extra safety. One cleric is plenty. You also seem to completely ignore that you can be killing extra mobs outside of whatever PH you're camping. Fungi king as an example you can pull trash mobs all the way back to the jail cells beyond the zoneout room and all the way to juggs if you so choose. There's no lack of mobs to pull in this area if nobody else is camping nearby (which most often there is nobody else in the area). You may not gain an extra PH cycle but you CERTAINLY can gain more kills. There are way more than 30 mobs in pulling range. I've been in groups killing fast enough that I'm literally pulling half of a zone at times. If everyone is lvl 60 with max XP it's less useful but not completely irrelevant. There's trash loot to gain and zone drops in certain zones or multiple named camps you can be pulling. You're being purposely obtuse here to support an idiotic argument that you refuse to back off of.
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Exactly. Safety matters, and a Shaman will help your group with DPS, utility, safety, and camp options all at the same time.
I am not ignoring the ability to kill outside mobs. There are simply a few problems here:
1. I haven't seen a Fungi King group pull trash in-between pulls. It's an unnecessary risk, and it is a pain to get back down there if you have to zone or wipe. You also risk losing the camp to another group. The point of camping Fungi King is to get Fungi Tunics, not to XP or get vendor trash.
2. When pulling mobs from outside of your camp radius, you are losing a lot of time due to travel/pull times. You aren't killing mobs very efficiently at that point anyway. The four extra seconds per kill isn't helping there either, because there is a lot more variability in the time it takes for the mob to get back to camp in the first place, depending on how consistent the puller is.
3. The only thing that has been ignored is the fact that a Shaman could root/rot trash if the group really wanted faster kill speeds when pulling trash in-between Fungi king spawns. Just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean you can't do it. I would never pull trash in-between Fungi King spawns, but you seem to think it's a good idea, and it is certainly doable.