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Old 09-11-2022, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I have already shown that the DPS a Mage brings is irrelevant due to the DPS breakpoints and respawn timers here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=2399
1: This proves nothing other than 1 data set says mage DPS will kill mobs x amount faster and x is not large enough to gain y more spawns in z amount of time at said camp. This does not prove irrelevance. Killing things faster is relevant even if it means you get 0 extra PH or named. I assume you would take a rogue over a paladin for a DPS spot in your group even if no extra named/PH were gained right? Why is that?

2: You have yet to provide any data whatsoever or even provide a sound argument for why a shamans redundant heals and utility is beneficial to the group in any meaningful way outside of very few niche camps/mobs that you mention. You cannot heal a full HP target. Not to mention your heal slows the target which is detrimental to the main source of your groups damage (the charm pets). Any decent cleric is not going to run out of mana ever healing in a group with 2 good enchanters. There are already 2 people that can slow almost as good as you. 2 other players with as good or better CC. A mage provides similar malo. What does shaman bring that this group needs besides mediocre dps and slightly better slow/malo that is fairly negligible? The mage pet is tankier than yours. The mage pet provides respectable DPS with no mana requirement. There is literally nothing shaman brings that matters or is better than a mage/necro/enchanter for the 4th slot in ALMOST every situation. Again you have provided 0 data to support your claims here. The only data you've ever brought is strictly related to DPS between shaman and mage. All the data points to mage and you stubbornly are still trying to prove why shaman is better based solely on your preference for unnecessary extra "safety"
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1: Mage is a better group DPS class than Shaman
2: Enchanters solo better than Warriors

These statements are not up for debate amongst sane human beings
Why does <Vanquish> allow DSM to be a member?
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