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Old 09-07-2022, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I did not change my argument.
You changed your argument (and moved goalposts) multiple times, as has been pointed out to you multiple times, by multiple people. I present your posts in this thread as evidence. You have not provided (and you cannot provide) any counter-evidence.

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People just don't read, and make straw mans of what they skimmed or thought they read.
No. You have not proven that "people just don't read".


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The post history is clear if you cared enough to read through it carefully.
There is plenty of evidence of you creating straw men in said post history - I present your posts in which you have created straw men as evidence. You have not provided (and you cannot provide) any counter-evidence.

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The reason why you test DPS the way I showed in my videos is because that removes variables outside of the player's control.
So you knowingly tested/recorded/captured/napkin-math'ed your DPS in an environment/situation/context that is contrary to the environment/situation/context of the discussion and are attempting to claim that your data is relevant? It is not. This really isn't hard hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Assuming your group plays correctly, you will DPS the same way every time, the same as if you were solo.
Then why did you (correctly, factually) state that the variables have (at bare minimum, the potential to have) an effect on DPS (or in your own words "skew the data") in the below quote?

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in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data
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Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing. If your Enchanters suck and your pet keeps dying, that isn't an indication Mage DPS is 20 instead of 40. That just means variables outside your control are affecting your DPS.
No. The "DPS equation" does not change and you have provided zero evidence that it does, so I am not sure what point you believe you are making hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is factually correct that variables outside of a specific player's control are affecting/can affect your DPS when in a group setting. In (irrefutable) fact, multiple other posters have provided this (irrefutable) fact (among others) to you already in attempts/efforts to explain to you that your solo Shaman root rotting data is not relevant to the discussion about Shaman vs Mage DPSing, in which context/environment these variables DO in fact exist and are inescapable as this is not a simulation, it is a game played by players. That you seem to be ignoring this, or acting like you have forgotten it, will not change the (irrefutable) facts (which you cannot refute).

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You could literally have 1000 data sets of players playing the game poorly
You could also call the sky red, or repeatedly provide irrelevant math or repeatedly accuse others of trolling... but why would you, and why would that be relevant to this discussion?
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