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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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My math is not wrong at all DSM, yours is:
1.) You try to add an extra tick duration to the DoT's when that's not going to happen much of the time with how fast the group is killing single targets.
2.) You suddenly say you can do Bane + Ebolt every 30 seconds, which you can not. You don't have the mana.
3.) You ignore resists.
4.) You don't understand time expenditure. In your latest post you now claim you can throw in JBB, when that does nothing. If you are using JBB then you aren't doing Canni spam in that time allotment, which means you are losing mana.
Most of a Mage's DPS is from pet + unresistible damage shield.
If you compare their ideal direct-damage spell DPS, the Shaman is barely better than the Mage anyway in a group like this. Mage damage spells are more efficient on their own and they can use Manarobe between med ticks when they have free time for a bit of extra mana.
You don't have "double the resist chance" you idiot. Blast of Poison is simply flat-out better than Ebolt here. E-bolt is going to do the same amount of damage, since it doesn't have time to actually work fully, and cost you 320 mana rather than 200.
Ice Strike gets completely resisted by Velious giants.
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You need to just stop embarrassing yourself.
If you are killing a mob at roughly 30 seconds, you will get the DoT ticks most of the time. If think the group is killing considerably faster than 30 seconds, name the time so I can adjust the spells accordingly hehe.
I am not ignoring resists. You simply don't seem to realize it would affect a Mage too. And since a Shaman can regenerate mana faster, it's less of an issue.
Bane cast is 5 seconds, E-Bolt cast is 6 seconds, JBB is 8 seconds. 20 seconds easily fits into 30 seconds lol. I do have the mana, it is not my fault you can't math.
We aren't talking about Velious giants lol. Ice immunity isn't really an issue in Seb, and your DoTs are generally more mana efficient than Blast of Poison unless you are killing really fast.
The problem here is you are assuming the group is always pulling mobs non-stop. The Shaman has time to recover during fights and in-between pulls. If you insist the group can pull that fast, the mobs must be really easy. The Shaman can simply root/rot mobs while waiting for the Enchanters to kill other mobs in that case. It would be more efficient to split up your efforts if you are killing that fast, and in that case a Shaman could do a lot more DPS for less mana with Epic clicks.
Other nukes are more efficient, so I have no idea what your Blast of Poison scenario would look like. You could Bane and then Ice Strike if you wanted to nuke instead. Ice Strike does 675 damage for 250 mana lol. Also, Ice Strike is 2.7 Damage per mana, not 2.03 lol. You are thinking of the wrong spell, probably Blizzard Blast.
For example, let's say your group only takes 20 seconds to kill a mob. 2x Ice Strikes (1350 / 20) is 67.5 DPS for 500 mana. That is even easier to canni back, and fits within the shorter time frame you are taking about.
You want to Bane + E-Bolt on a mob that is going to die in 30ish seconds so you have more recovery time while the mob is dying. It only takes 12 seconds for both casts, and you get at least 50 DPS out of it. You could 3x Ice Strike for 750 mana and get better DPS, but you would have less recovery time.