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Originally Posted by Werlop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OR TMO loses more members over time because they have more to lose? I.e. a percentage of the raid force burns out a month. Unless one guild has a higher rate of burnout than the other, this doesn't really matter much. But the guild with the higher burnout rate will probably break before the other. Numbers only matter here if your raid force shrinks to the point that you can no longer keep up.

Also, TR raids with less- they need less keys. If TMO is going to get keys for all the people that are in their 80 man zerg force, they will need many more Trak kills than TR since TR has a lead on keys AND needs less keys to fully key their raid force up. I don't hear anyone denying that TR's average member is better than TMO's average member (gear, level, uberpwnliness, whatever you want to call it). They not only need less keys, but would get more out of each key. So if TR and TMO split the keys evenly, TR benefits more (and would need to back-key less). And VP gear > pretty much all non-epic raid drops.

Tell me this: if each guild gets roughly 2 keys per week, and you app to the guild has over 100 active raiders, when can you expect to get your key? Versus apping to the guild with half as many raiders and probably half of them are already keyed.

we have 100 active raiders... wow.