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Old 08-08-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
With regards to Rogues tanking, that's my point. Just because they can, doesn't mean you want them to, or they are ideal. A Mage pet can tank, but if it's behind/to the side of the mob it will DPS more than tanking it. And you get backstab if you have a water pet. A Mage is a DPS class at the end of the day, so you want them to DPS, not tank. Most groups don't need to have Mage Pets as the main tank, similar to how most groups don't need Rogues as the main tank.

Efficiency is important, but again you are assuming all players want to maximize efficiency in Droga. Having more options is also efficient, as money camps are not always open when you are on.

You were talking about suboptimal duos. Any duo with a Mage is suboptimal, due to how much utility you lose by bringing a pure DPS class to a duo. I am not saying you can't succeed with a Mage duo. You can succeed with any duo, including two rogues. Give them embalming daggers for infinite bandages and swap who tanks. But that doesn't mean it is an optimal duo, if efficiency is a huge concern for you.
Your first paragraph really only applies to optimized full groups. I already considered mages/rogues pretty much a wash there as at that point they both should be focusing on dps. But there are plenty of other areas of the game, as I already mentioned soloing/duoing/trioing, which mages are simply better at that overall than rogues are. That's really not debatable, you're just choosing to weigh those areas less, which gets away from the point of "overall" power.

Having more options also doesn't mean efficiency, depending on where you're set up and how much time it took to do that, if you have to leave and go somewhere else, you're probably better off just switching chars and finding efficiency elsewhere, and many people can and will do.

Any mage with a duo is not suboptimal, the other class can handle the efficiency if the combination is right. Mage/enchanter for example. They can kill for hours with pretty much no breaks, whereas a rogue will probably be dead in a few minutes trying to bandage up with horrendous embalmer knives, lol. And two rogues is a really really bad comparison, as 2 mages is a far more powerful duo, so you're not making any sense there.

Mage really isn't just a pure dps class when you factor in how much utility you get with powerful pets and the ability to resummon one at will. Rogues are a one trick pony, they're down there with wizards/rangers at the bottom of the totem pole.
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