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Originally Posted by Crede
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I didn't say rogues suck. I said they're underpowered, that's not bad, remember? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].
Rogue's lack of soloing doesn't make them suck, but it does lower their overall rating. I'd treat clerics no differently. They definitely don't suck, but it does lower their overall power rating.
Rogues dont really get anything great outside of raiding that makes them any better. They need to get epic to keep up with mage dps(pet, nukes, DS). But mage can get a water staff for their final 2 water pets, which is prob more effective than anything else a rogue can get outside raids.
Mages are great pp farmers, droga for instance. Every other class cannot give you this benefit. Wizards will go oom from like 1 mediocre mob.
Sounds like you don't duo/trio much. And why are you bringing in other classes again? Focus here on mage vs rogue. Mage pet can fit multiple roles in a duo/trio, not to mention can be resummoned at will when sufficient healing is not present. It will take most of a druids mana to heal a rogue whereas a mage can just resummon a monster pet for free basically.
Again, rogues aren't bad, just more underpowered than mages. |
Unless you really like killing in Droga, being efficient at it is not a huge plus. There are plenty of other ways to make PP, and every class can solo in Droga at 60 if they want to self-farm skins/salts and whatnot.
I am bringing in other classes because the discussion is "most underpowered class overall", so that includes all classes.
The problem here is you are basically saying in poorly formed duo/trio groups Mages can do well. I am not sure why that is a huge plus, since poorly formed groups aren't going to do great anyway, whether you have a Mage or not. Plenty of other classes can do just fine in suboptimal groups too, so it doesn't make a Mage special.
To your point about Mage pets being able to tank, Rogues could tank as well if you had a group with a slower, since we are talking about weird group comps. They have much better defense skills than a Shaman, who can face tank just fine with slow. They also have two defensive discs, Counterattack Discipline and Nimble Discipline.