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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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The strengths of a class and what they are intended for matters. Saying a Rogue sucks because they can't solo is silly, because you see more Rogues than Mages. Obviously there is something more important than just soloing in the case of a Rogue, or you wouldn't see this trend.
Rogues can scale better than Mages at 60 outside of the raid scene. You can still get great items without heavy raiding, and you don't have to worry about AI issues when it comes to Mage pets.
The problem is Mages don't have anything going for them at higher levels other than CoTH. If you aren't planning on CoTH botting, basically every other class will give you the same options or more at 60 outside of raiding.
If you want to group, Rogues and Mages basically have the same shot of getting in, because duos/trios generally don't pick dedicated DPS classes anyway. It's better to pick classes that can fill multiple roles. And in a full group both Rogues and Mages DPS just fine.
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I didn't say rogues suck. I said they're underpowered, that's not bad, remember?
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Rogue's lack of soloing doesn't make them suck, but it does lower their overall rating. I'd treat clerics no differently. They definitely don't suck, but it does lower their overall power rating.
Rogues dont really get anything great outside of raiding that makes them any better. They need to get epic to keep up with mage dps(pet, nukes, DS). But mage can get a water staff for their final 2 water pets, which is prob more effective than anything else a rogue can get outside raids.
Mages are great pp farmers, droga for instance. Every other class cannot give you this benefit. Wizards will go oom from like 1 mediocre mob.
Sounds like you don't duo/trio much. And why are you bringing in other classes again? Focus here on mage vs rogue. Mage pet can fit multiple roles in a duo/trio, not to mention can be resummoned at will when sufficient healing is not present. It will take most of a druids mana to heal a rogue whereas a mage can just resummon a monster pet for free basically.
Again, rogues aren't bad, just more underpowered than mages.