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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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It's ridiculous to act like raiders are some tiny minority of EQ and I'm not "going back" to that topic, it's just part of the entire discussion. Even outside of raids though, the game would indeed be slower for some people, because Mages are one of the best classes to have for leveling, whether in a group or solo. They are especially great when among people who find charming to be too difficult or annoying. Or even regardless for a new server, where charming isn't great anyway until you get to at least mid level, a group like 5 Mages and 1 Enchanter is probably the fastest way to level, and thus the best way to win the race to control the priority camps in the game.
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Yes, you are overvaluing raiding in this discussion to make Mages better, which is why its exiting the topic. Most players statistically only casually raid, so it isn't a huge part of the "most underpowered overall" discussion. The only real exception to this is when looking at Warriors, because a large chunk of Warriors on the servers were created for raiding. The same can be said for Mages (CoTH Bots), but based on your arguments and the arguments of others, it is clear people place high value on soloing and grouping too, so the sliders change.
No, you don't see a 5 Mage 1 Ench leveling group that often, except for maybe when a new server spins up. The reason for this is because the group composition has one fatal flaw: Most of the group members are leveling Mages lol. XP groups are created by people who want to level the classes they want to play. They don't make Mages simply to maximize group DPS at the expense of not actually leveling the class they want to play. Just because that group composition may level fast on paper doesn't mean everybody wants to level a Mage.
Grouping would see no significant slowdown of XP if Mages were deleted.