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Originally Posted by Troxx
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I’m seeing mages get a lot of hate in this thread. For raids, yeah understandable. No pets allowed so you’re basically just a mod-rod bitch and a coth whore. For groups? Mages represent some of the highest dps potential of any class outside of a charm pet.
I parse most every group I’m in and I’ll say that with a max summon pet + nukes (not even factoring in damage shield) nothing was out damaging me other than a charmed pet when I was playing my mage. Even rogues couldn’t compete. The pet alone would outdps or hold steady with most competently geared melee. Add an extra 1-2 nukes per fight and it’s not even close.
Granted … mage pets did get dialed back since the last time I dusted off my mage.
Mages make an excellent … excellent grouping class. Anyone who says otherwise hasn’t run a real-time parsing program.
With regards to mage vs necro … it’s messy. I have played both extensively to 60. Mage will put out a fair bit more damage in a group unless the necro is charming … but necros are frankly just overpowered in all of the *other* they can do (to include pretty impressive healing potential).
If I really only wanted or needed raw dps I’d take the mage. In general though … I’ll take the necro unless it’s a mouth-breather who doesn’t know how to use the full skill set of the class.
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There is no Mage hate here. I love Mages, they are a really fun class and important in raids. I really don't understand why people equate underpowered to bad, or you don't like them. There is simply an objective best class and an objective worst class, even if all classes are great. This is true on P99, no class is so bad that they are unplayable.
Everything you said about Mages I agree with, except for probably Rogue DPS at high levels. Rogues can out DPS Mages due to their greater ability to scale, they don't need to worry about spell resists, and any mob that can be slowed isn't taking heavy damage from a DS. There are also plenty of areas where pets are more risky than a Player due to pathing issues and whatnot.
The crux of the issue is how much you weigh leveling when considering "most underpowered class". I do not believe a Mage's great leveling ability saves them, because they are quite underpowered at 60 besides CoTH. So sadly you have a great leveling experience and then have little to do at the end. Mages are the only class I can think of where this is true.