[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you jumping to Shamans with BiS gear? That has never been a part of the discussion, unless you are finally pulling something out of your "95% of a Shaman's life" blackbox.

That's exactly where; you're really bad at following (ie. reading) conversations [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The context was that we were talking about how long a Shaman would play, and I was making the point that once you get full BiS gear you (by definition) have nothing left to acquire. And once you have nothing left to acquire, most people won't play that character.

So, if you're talking about when a Shaman stops playing, it makes sense to "jump to" (again, not really a jump if you'd read the conversation) BiS gear.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have already shown multiple times you can cap your STA before level 60, without raid gear, and with desirable gear.

Yes you can, as you keep repeating. But you keep ignoring my points that A) most won't, and B) even if you do get cap-hitting gear pre-Torpor, you're almost certainly going to want to sell it to buy Torpor. Ultimately, it all still fits what I've been saying for 20+ pages: for most of their life, a Shaman won't have stat-capped gear.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are factually incorrect when you claim that people will not cap STA until they are at the point at which they quit. You have literally 0 evidence for this, so please stop saying it. You do NOT NEED BiS gear (or even raid gear) to cap STA as a Shaman, even as a Barbarian.

Now you're putting words in my mouth: I never claimed "people will not cap STA until they are at the point at which they quit". I've very consistently said that they won't cap any stat for 95+% of their career. Only you could get through 28 pages of conversation and not get the point I've repeated a dozen times about "95+%"

Look, it's clear you don't want to read, or communicate with people like a human being, you just want to mindlessly repeat your same points over and over like an automaton. It's exhausting, and I'm not going to keep participating.

So you have two choices: either make a claim that directly counters the points I've spent over 20 pages detailing ... again, as I said before, something like:

Originally Posted by Loramin

I believe realistic/actual Shaman below 60 will hit the stat cap because ____
I believe Mana will save a Shaman's life before 60 more than HP will because ____
I believe that once a Shaman has gotten 60, and Torpor, and good enough gear to max stats, they will spend more than 5% of their total playtime playing that character because _____

Or else have fun talking to yourself in this thread. I'm not going to answer anymore cherry-picked quotes taken out of context, or the same mindless repetition posts over and over.