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So now, after dropping the discussion in the middle and not responding to any of my points, you want to just restart things with a brand new wall of text, ignoring my points and staring with the ones you want. You're the king of honest discussion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
But fuck it, let's go anyway.
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You are the one who has proven time and again they don't read posts. The only thing I can do is move on, because it is clear you can't have a normal discussion about this. You just keep repeating disproven points, and you don't know they are disproven due to lack of reading.
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No one disagrees with that: you've shown a Shaman can max their Stamina for much less. But you're willfully ignoring the much larger point, which is that Shaman have lots of benefits they can get from gear, and they are not going to ignore all those other benefits just so they can max their Stamina.
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I am not ignoring that point, you just didn't read
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You can cap STA easily with gear + Riotous Health + an STA potion. Just because you don't like using potions or STA gear, doesn't mean it is harder to cap STA. You have multiple avenues to get tons of STA, and this is not true with WIS.
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Again, no argument from me, at 60 with good gear Stamina is easier to cap ... but still, non-raid Shaman won't be hitting any stat cap until the very end of their career.
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Provide a Magelo please. You keep refusing to provide evidence for this, other than your 200k+ Magelo of yourself, which can cap STA just fine. So far there are 4 Magelos proving my point against 0 Magelos proving yours.
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I stopped reading right there: every time you declare "THERE IS ONLY ONE REASON AND I KNOW IT" it shows you're not having a rational discussion, you're just declaring "I AM RIGHT AND NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH ME".
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This isn't what happened, the post history is clear. But at this point the only thing you can do is try to win the discussion this way.
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Again, everyone in this thread agrees stats are largely meaningless. But you can only pick Stamina or Wisdom, not AC or HP Regen or DPS or anything else with your starting stats, and both Wisdom and Stamina scale by level (but ... the HP from the scaled Stamina will be more valuable than the Mana from the scaled Wisdom, because HP saves you from death and Mana doesn't).
It will save your life more times than 30 Mana will, and everything else is just you repeating what we all agree: other stuff is better than max Stamina.
Again, yes, you are correct: +25 Starting Stamina will not save your life often! ... but it will save your life more than +25 Wisdom, as I keep repeating.
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Again, I have provided evidence to the contrary of this. You have provided nothing other than an anecdote. I myself did run out of mana before health while leveling. So evidence wise we are at an impasse there. We both have an unprovable anecdote. But I do have a video, and you do not. Factually speaking that video shows how Mana can save your life, and you have no evidence to show how the 75HP is better.