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Old 07-21-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
So, I keep making the same points, and you keep ignoring them and not offering any evidence to the contrary ... but you've won the discussion because you declare it so. I bow down to your superior EQ knowledge. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still haven't shown evidence that mana is more valuable than HP, either before 60 or at 60, and you still haven't shown evidence that a real non-raid Shaman (who cares about more than just maxxing Stamina) would ever hit the cap before they've run out of reasons to play the character,

You someone else made a Magelo of a contrived Stamina-only Shaman (who had to have a complete set of non-raiding gear in order to hit the cap) and declared yourself the victor. Great, you "won" ... what?

I'm a human trying to have a conversation: converse with me, talk about what I'm talking about ... don't chime in with a two sentence sound bite that ignores every point I've made and declare you've won the (imaginary) battle in your head.
I find it funny you are complaining that I am not typing enough, when you often complain I type too much. The problem isn't the length of the reply, you just don't like people disagreeing with you.

We have shown you evidence. Those two Magelos are examples of how STA is easy to cap with gear that isn't hard to get. Those Magelos aren't "contrived" item lists, those are pretty good items for Shamans, and they are not hard to get. Please show us a Magelo of what you think a "casual level 60 Shaman" looks like.

OP did NOT ask "what is better, HP or Mana"? OP asked about "Solo Barbarian Stat Allocation". In that case, the answer comes down to which is better 25 STA, or 25 WIS? When asking these questions, you simply need to look at how stats are distributed on gear in the era you are playing in. The best starting stat is the primary stat that is hardest to max. It's really that simple. The reason for this is because once you hit the cap, you aren't benefiting from the stat.

If you ever got down to 75HP in a level 60 encounter, the problem wasn't your starting stats. The problem was with the encounter. You got bad luck, tried to fight something too hard, or aren't skilled enough. Remember, we are only talking about 75HP at best. It isn't like you can increase your starting stats somehow later in the game. That is why the discussion is NOT "what is better, HP or Mana?", because the numbers are always fixed, and will deteriorate based on if you cap the stat.

Both 75HP and 150-250ish Mana will slightly increase your chances of survival at level 60. Both can keep you from dying, but the chances are small in either case. Either choice isn't going to make or break your experience, so there is no reason to overthink it. Pick the stat that is hardest to cap so you can benefit from the stat more often.

EDIT: Finally, I am not sure why you are fixated on my mentioning of Hammer of the Dragonborn. My point was that Shamans have more STA buffs than WIS buffs. It's really that simple. I still don't have a Hammer of the Dragonborn by the way. You don't NEED one to cap STA, as shown by the Magelos posted earlier.
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