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Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The true point of the Kobyashimaru test (no win scenario) is to see if a crew and commander can carry on with dignity through to the very end.

It's not about winning. It's about doing your duty. Kirk saw his duty to the crew and looked for every means possible of winning, and always kept his dignity, except when he yelled KHHHHHAAAAAANNNNNN we can forgive him that though. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point is either way we lose.

We now get to decide to lose with dignity or lose like animals clawing at our cage doors sacrificing others for our own safety or looking after the safety of others and trying to set the world up for a new more responsible civilization.

That's where I really liked the remake of Star Trek where kirk goes into the nuclear reactor instead it shows he was on the ball and on track and didn't sacrifice his crew he saved his crew. Not that the original was bad it's just a different more kirk like take. In the other one it showed kirk getting older and less on the ball, he was caught with his pants down after all and his buddies, especially his best bud Spock lookin out for him. That is how you live with dignity. It doesn't matter how on the ball u are. I guess it makes a lot more sense because in one timeline he was old kirk and the other he was young kirk so things played out a lot differently yet with some core similarities.

Just breathe and think ppl. And if u can't, well, go pray to G-D.

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