Originally Posted by Jibartik
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Im voting for trump in 2024 because I want the establishment to feel the pain they put on others.
As for his policy:
he got us into less wars tahn any prseident in my life (he didn't get us out of the real war: the class war, that he perpetuated and worsened)
he criticized NATO harshly for asking for US tax dollars, that they spent on Russian oil (i know this is a hot issue for you people because tyou thnk biden single handedly is killing putin and that trump would have actually been a russian agent, but in reality that is all a fUCKING STORY AND NOT REAL) (I don't believe the us media on this one either and this is why I stay out of the Ukraine thread except to mock the military, mostly, unless I've done drunk shitposting and forgotten about it)
I believe america won the cold war, not nato. Nato is bullshit, and we never needed it after the cold war ended and it is the reason putin had the money to invade ukraine (before you stop raeding and quote this part stop I already know what whoopie Goldberg thinks) (same as above)
he ended our war in afghanastan (without having peopel fall off airplanes and killing 13 soldeirs) (never should have been there because there's no easy exit anyways, and the dark theory is that the ukraine thing was engineered to cover the dirty afghanistan exit)
he drone stiked high ranking members of the enemy military (something I believe in, I dont like killing people while keeping high ranking members alive) (just creating more future high ranking members of enemy militaries, whether it's generals or soldiers or child soldiers, never should have been there, and while dirty, the best solution may look like another afghanistan exit i guess, becoming world police is a goddamn messy business. yes i know this probably means the kurds get slaughtered someday, our relationship with the kurds has always been deceptive and let's be honest even if i say i like apoism they'd probably shoot a person like me on sight, rightfully)
he lowered costs with china (I know yuo guys dont believe this one either but I know for a fact he did and it was great and the economic boom during him was great for people in my circles, I know in your circles they were not because you live in a fantasy world where trump is a china/russian spy and racism is decided in the white house) (i don't know if that worked, considering the everyday costs that we all face right now, but sure, i guess it depends on what you mean by 'costs'. racism is not 'decided', it is inherent to power as manifested in america, whether it's local or national, it's essentially part of culture here in the south. there does not need to be a racism committee, it's far more insidious than that)
Im sure there are like 10x things more that I cant remember, but I liked trump as president. (i didn't but i've never liked any of them, despite voting for some of them)
I am a huge fan of the abraham accords. (i am personally skeptical as long as the usa and israel are involved, but whatever, we'll see)
I didnt like his covid response, but it was bidens covid policy so that is irrelevant now. (sure okay i think a lot of it has to do with capitalism being the managing principle of american healthcare but that's a different argument)
I dont know much about how he destroyed the environment, Im am told he destroyed the environment, but I have yet to see any evidence other than the tears of liberals. (destruction of the environment predates trump, and just like all of the other presidents, he did little to actually address it because addressing it means addressing capitalism and they don't do that)
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