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Old 05-27-2022, 12:48 PM
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Loramin I actually don't want to be an asshole towards you and kinda bully you in this way. I do get passionate about 2nd amendment stuff, because when it is approached rationally, the answer is incredibly clear.

It is difficult to find honest studies available anywhere about real world situations like the law passed in Maine despite that situation being a very very easy one to draw data from. When you do dig into statistics (look at Maine gun crime rates since 2015) the data virtually invariably shows no statistically significant increase in gun violence.

The only rare exceptions are when there is a corresponding increase in police lead anti gang violence or other unrelated death increasing policies.

There are many examples where "permissive" gun laws are passed, and no data is drawn or discussed. In all cases it is because the data goes against "studies" like the one you linked, that are nonsense.

The federal "assault weapons ban" expired in 2004. It was the most restrictive gun prohibition in the united states ever, and never made anyone more safe. Passing such a law again would be a best case scenario for anti-gun people, but there is no data to say that 1994-2004 was a period of unprecedented public safety, because it wasn't.

Just so you know, you can still identify as a die hard liberal and disavow a nonsense anti second ammendment viewpoint. Just like people can be conservatives and disavow the orange man (who is not a conservative)
I really don't think it's very complicated: when there are laws restricting how many and where guns can be, by definition there will be be less guns available in those places for people to use to commit gun violence ... so less gun violence occurs.

You don't need a doctorate in sociology, or even to look at the mountains of evidence (that you're ignoring) to see that more gun control = less dead people.
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