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Originally Posted by Fammaden
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Yes, and other competitive events like that have rules and enforcement in real time by a third party arbiter. Referees, umpires, judges, etc.
The biggest issues plaguing the raid scene are that we have rules that aren't enforced and the players aren't monitored or penalized. And when they are enforced its months later, which is not helpful in behavioral shaping when punishments aren't dealt in a timely manner.
With all due respect to our overworked and underappreciated volunteer staff (who believe it or not have a lot of other shit to do that's unrelated to raiding), the raid game is totally lacking in this enforcement that's necessary for head-to-head competition.
This is not a controversial take. Basically every raider agrees with this issue, doesn't matter if you're Vanq or Riot, Seal/Force or Kingdom/Safe, everyone agrees this is a problem. They only disagree on who should be getting the most penalty flags thrown at them.
Because the raid scene is lacking the needed officiating, its not valid to hold up competitive raiding as some sort of virtue on P99. Competitions need straightforward and consistent rulebooks with someone ensuring that both teams are playing by the rules at all times, or it devolves into a chaotic race to the bottom.
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I do agree with your assessment here. But the answer is quite simple: Remove the rules that require GM intervention, and let the players govern themselves. Yes, there will be a few weeks of people going wild and training other guilds ad-nauseum. But eventually everybody would get tired of it (including the trainers), and the players would govern themselves.
The staff should create a sandbox in which the players figure out what's best. That is what made Everquest a much more social game than most modern MMO's these days. You actually had to make friends and uphold agreements. It isn't like modern MMO's where you can get everything you want without needing to talk to anyone, due to the exact systems people are suggesting. Instancing is the modern form of rotations, and games have given you what you asked for close to 20 years now. P99 is awesome because it is one of the few MMO's that does something different.