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Old 04-14-2022, 11:51 AM
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No, it's differentiated by the fact that the Sleeper is a purely optional one-time event, while content like Manastones have a set time limit according to what the admins want for this server.

I honestly don't care about the Sleeper. That's content I won't see and have no interest in dedicating the time to see. But I know the difference between a one time event like that and limited time content like Manastones.

There's no way to say the devs want the Sleeper to be awoken? Did the devs want people to loot Inte's Sword of Death? Two different situations I know, I just want to see who even knows what that sword is lol.

IMO the whole Sleeper event was a mistake from the very beginning. It's never a good idea for a MMORPG to feature an event that can only happen one time ever and that permanently locks out certain content. I can't name a MMORPG after Everquest that ever did that.

The only way to make content like the Sleeper awakening acceptable in a MMORPG is to also make it reversible. You can awaken it and lock out Warder loot in exchange for essence loot, but also put it back to sleep and lock out essence loot in exchange for warder loot. And neither state is permanent. Maybe should be time-locked like a month or two but never permanent. MMORPGs should by their nature remain static in that way unless an expansion officially alters it. And after Everquest they do remain static, all of the major ones at least as far as I'm aware.
Again, it being optional is irrelevant to whether or not it is a time limited event. You can have a time limited event that has voting to extend the time limit. That is what Sleeper is. A time limited event where players vote to extend his sleep timer by not killing him. It is no different than Manastone other than it's variability. You can farm Warders for however long the Sleeper remains Sleeping, which is the same as Manastone. You can farm Manastone as long as it is on the drop table. It's quite simple, and has the same result.

Yes, the Dev's want Sleeper to be awoken because they had to put him in to P99. He isn't just available by default. That takes time and effort to figure out how he works. They could have easily just not done the work at all and disabled the event, which would have been the easier path. The time and effort they put into adding Sleeper into the game shows the Dev's intent to have him be awoken at some point.

Whether or not Sleeper was a mistake is irrelevant, as the Dev's are trying to re-create Everquest in it's classic form, which is why they included the Sleeper. Also, you can't use the "permanently disabling content" argument, because keeping the Sleeper sleeping is "permanently disabling content" too by preventing players from doing the Essence Lens quest. Content is denied in either case, whether the Sleeper is Sleeping or awoken.
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