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Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a script to work for the full race, it'd have to be from beginning to end to time up properly, and if that WERE the case, that video could've been much more convincing by showing the actual races, not the jumps. If he's consistently doing a perfect 90 sec race, the precise angles, you could bind sight and overlay them and there wouldn't be a shred of doubt.

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also don't think he's cheating because he's really good, knowledgable, and practices a lot. In my experience, these are not things cheaters do. Why spend hundreds of hours practicing a race if you're going to script it? Why host guild training sessions and be able to answer every question regarding every race and know every trick unless he's just... good?

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Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are there any of Stunningly doing this? I mean, I don't doubt people can script autorun. But I do not believe people are scripting full races and I do not believe scripted jumps matter much.

Those specific cases involved others who demonstrated similar reaction times in the video.

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, I agree that someone who cheats will go to any length. But isn't it curious how this person who gets a lot of FTE's is a really good player who practices and studies a lot? It's just so strange, the person who works the hardest to get better, is the best.

But the argument isn't that the players in question aren't capable of securing FTEs regularly, it's that they chose to give themselves an advantage. If they didn't think that the advantage was needed or beneficial, they wouldn't have resorted to using it. And apparently at least one of them is S tier at raiding/racing in EQ, so if any player knew whether or not that advantage translated into FTEs, wouldn't they know? And if they knew it didn't make a significant difference, why would they use it anyway?

"We're talking about fractions of a second here. And uh, over time, they add up to a lot."

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not opposed to this, but I don't think you can glean much from it.

It would show that the player either could or could not match previous reaction times. If the player was not able to achieve the same or similar reaction times, it would indicate either that they had relied on scripting in the past or recently suffered a hand injury, likely from punching someone's teeth out.

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, I don't know if the problem is that people today are more inclined to spend 2 months making a documentary instead of spending those 2 months practicing. I don't know if Riot has a practice server or how much they spend there.

p99 is a strange hobby, sure. But racing can be a lot of fun for some people. NToV races were my favorite part of the game. I did a lot of tracking too. The competition, and contributing to the guilds success are what drove me. Is it really THAT hard to believe someone is just really good?

Pulling unrooted dragons was a lot of fun for quite a few players as well. Some of the things they were able to do were surprising and they did put a lot of time into knowing zone layouts, spawns, and pathing like the back of their hand. Ssouky is a name that always comes to mind because he alone brought a CSG raid to a successful conclusion, showing up after many hours were lost to what felt like a mobius strip of respawns. All it took was a pair of fresh eyes and calm directions, and within half an hour Lady N died without incident. These were referred to as the "playmakers", a term that eventually became a point of contention within the alliance due to loot distribution. It always comes down to pixels. Playmakers were good, Ssouky was great, but no one is as good as what was shown in the recording.

Again, it would be helpful if more of the race was analyzed, but that would require a lot more effort than either accepting the change or subjecting the player(s) in question to a simple test.