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Originally Posted by Ooloo
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I agree that ST have the right to wake the sleeper and deny lootz, but this isn't really a valid comparison. If a guild really wants that quest line, they'll just wake the sleeper themselves to get it. Pre-wake warder drops are *already* available, and one guild can choose to make them not available anymore. The lens can be turned *on*, whereas warder loot can only be turned *off*. So it's different, you're expanding the definition of "loot denial" to fit that under the umbrella.
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That doesn't make sense because Essence Lens requires Warder loot to be turned off. You can't open up Essence Lens without closing Warder loot. There is no way to wake sleeper AND keep warders up. If that was the case, people would indeed keep the Warders up for more items.
Arguing about waking the sleeper is really an argument about who deserves what loot more: Warriors/Monks for robe/scepter, or most other classes with Essence Lens? What gives you the right to decide? There is no right answer, which is why it isn't a dick move. Warriors/Monks become sad when Sleeper dies, but other classes become happy. This isn't a situation where the only thing you do is turn off loot.