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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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Mage is plenty good for group content, they do great DPS. You've underrated them and Necro, while overrating Pally and SK. Even in late Velious era where Pally/SK are at their best, they lack the DPS or game-altering defensive ability to be one of the most powerful, particularly since only 1 tank is needed and it doesn't have to be one of the plate classes. Ranking that era:
S - Enchanter, Shaman (with Torpor)
A - Bard (with epic and played optimally, which is rare), Rogue, Cleric (sometimes overrated; there are times when other classes can provide sufficient healing while also contributing DPS, including Necro! More than 1 Cleric in a group is the worst diminishing returns of any class too), Monk (with Triple Attack and Two-hander/fist swap technique; not 100% sure on the DPS parses but seems very high)
B - Necro (A tier if good charm target is available), Mage, Pally, SK
C - Ranger, Warrior
D - Druid (without heal clicky and charm; A tier if there's a great animal to charm)
F - Wizard (without Manarobe or DPS clicky; D or C tier with top items)
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Too many caveats, like requiring torpor for shaman to be S. How many shamans on the server have torpor? Shaman is not S.
You moved monk up to A for when they are already 60 and have an end game weapon? Once again, how many monks on the server are 60 or have end game weapons?
Pal and SK aren't there for DPS. Snap aggro is super important in groups, making them the best tanks when you include their mitigation. You knock their DPS but for whatever reason you included end game items when considering other classes, and their DPS isn't bad for group content when well equipped. Give them a reaver, narandi's lance (55+) or massive dragon claw shard, and it's on!
Nothing is explained on why you moved necro and mage up (by two!). Necro and mage are super conditional, like pets requiring mobs to be spread a part when root parking for CC or else they'll get killed or put mobs into summoning range at higher level. Their nukes are either bad or conditional. Necro has utility, mage has.. something.. maybe necro could have come up one. Disagree with mage placement, entirely.
Moved ranger down to same tier as warrior? Ranger should at least be one tier above warrior because they bring the same dps, but better aggro and much more utility.