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Originally Posted by Jibartik
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I still would argue that this is blamey:
That sounds to me that if he didnt do it, we would be going back into a war, how am I wrong about that?
"all I could do in this cold harsh position I am stuck in, is either go through with its assnine plan, or be forced into a war"
Can we at least admit that this is some passive aggressive shit?
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i am willing to admit it may be passive-aggressive memetic signalling, especially since it caught your eye so acutely. there is stuff like that in there. However I think he or anyone would be hard pressed to not call the question of withdrawal, leaving many to die and culture to wash away, a cold hard one. I think ur right tho, he didn't namecheck Bush did he? So I'll admit that, but in reality, when the adults enter the room, I think both parties can agree that the Trump agreement was an excellent thing and virtually ended the very prolific bloodshed in the last months of the occupation. I certainly do admit that achievement, and I'm on Biden train here. It's not even Trump's doing except agreeing to accept, it's really more of a diplomatic service achievement and everyone up there knows that.
I think where you are going awry here is by assuming us leaving is a bad thing. The sin is that we stayed so long that there is much life dependent on us. In point of fact, it is staying so long
trying to leave peacefully and from a "good position" which has led us to this position of total prostration. At a certain point there must be a deadline, a hard cut, and the hard breaks must be made. This horror is the fruit of empire, and it is only postponeable and grows with age like compound interest measured in human suffering. This is why it is wrong. Blood gushes forth as we finally remove our blade from the belly of a free nation. It was never going to look any different, the back-stroke of stabbing our sword murderously into another nation of human beings, arriving with proclamations of how they must now live.