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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx
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just responding to a couple of your points. RE: #2, this would be easier to believe if vanquish ever actually took responsibility for it's trains, and if they didn't seem to happen week after week, even when the competing raid force wasn't anywhere close to the vanquish raid.
RE: #3, I think the items you mentioned in parenthesis are actually the stamp the current GM's have put on the server, which you say is lacking. Along these lines, re: #5, I think the GM's position seems pretty easy to articulate: in year 6 of velious, it's probably ok to dial back how cutthroat the competition is and allow for some limited sharing of content among guilds that aren't really able or willing to engage in the literally insane p99 raid scene, especially when nearly all orgs that exist and interact with each other agree to do so. Getting a chance every 3 months to kill a limited selection of targets is nice, and you still get to go super hard more than 90% of the time.
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I believe vanquish does take responsibility for trains. We conceded last Dain for screwing up the pull and we do that frequently when we screw up. We're just not going to concede a target when there's no active engage on it: i.e. Riot clearing to doubles doesn't mean we're conceding jorlleag and lady N if we're training to triples from vyemm while you guys are kiting some mobs at bottom of triples ramp without our knowledge.
In response to "cutting back how cutthroat the competition is and allow for some limited sharing of content" - NO. Go somewhere else if you want that. There's plenty of other options. This is the only competitive server that hasn't been nerf nuked to hell and double wrapped in plastic bubbles within bubbles.
You (general you) don't deserve content that you aren't willing to sacrifice and put in the time and effort to see that content / pixels. If you want a participation trophy of content / pixels, go to any of the multiple options where you can do that.