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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx
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Just because a thing could (or still can!) be done, doesn't mean it was the norm. Taking the one time someone did vulak with 32 people, and then using that as the basis for asserting that things were different then, is kind of disingenuous. Over a long period of time, lets say a year, what was the average number of people AM brought to a Vulak kill? How does that compare to current numbers brought by guilds competing for Vulak now?
Obviously you could kill dragons with fewer people when the meta was "footrace for FTE; lockout, no live pulls."
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Vulak has always been a little bit tricky, as there were many people even way back in AM who would farm DKP, then ONLY show up to Vulak if it was our FTE. They called them "Vulak Ghosts". Same always applied to the other side as well, there would always be 30-40% more people on a vulak kill log vs 2 minutes into the fight and especially vs other dragons. Also keep in mind that 50-60 people showing up to a dragon kill most likely means that your guild has 200+ active raiders. (Which was the case on both sides- and even applies today to any guild)
RIGHT before the dragons were rooted, it was the most competitive that ToV ever was in my time there. 3 guilds were genuinely going after the mobs, and <Core> was winning a decent amount of them with 40-50 people. <AG> was in the 50-70 range, and AM was in the 80-90 range on average. The thing is, with live pull era dragons, having 50 people isn't a disadvantage vs 90 people. If you have all roles covered, 50 people was enough. Rooted dragons, the 80-90 man guild wins 90% of the time. Which is why Riot became a guild. Paradigm Shift, Core, Part of Azure Guards best players, and almost every non NA guild joined forces to create Riot.