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Old 08-05-2021, 12:41 AM
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So TLDR: yes firearms are a risk. But most people don't just flip into a "I'm going to attempt suicide right now" like you or I would flip a lightswitch. It's a process, and along the way, people can and do become proactive and give up their firearms to their supports
Mental health is just as bad as it has ever been the only difference is people have more access to weapons like AR-15s than say a Tommy Gun (price at $200 or equivalent to $3,500 in modern day).

And it isn't just violence in the home it could be at the grocery store, the club, church or work.

Mass shootings are way too prevalent:

Examples - Location in US - Date - Fatalities
Las Vegas Strip massacre - 10/1/2017 - 58
Orlando nightclub massacre - 6/12/2016 - 49
Virginia Tech massacre - 4/16/2007 - 32
Sandy Hook Elementary massacre - 12/14/2012 - 27
Texas First Baptist Church massacre - 11/5/2017 - 26
Luby's massacre - 10/16/1991 - 24
El Paso Walmart mass shooting - 8/3/2019 - 22
San Ysidro McDonald's massacre - 7/18/1984 - 22
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting - 2/14/2018 - 17
United States Postal Service shooting - 8/20/1986 - 15
San Bernardino mass shooting - 12/2/2015 - 14
Binghamton shootings - 4/3/2009 - 14
Fort Hood massacre - 11/5/2009 - 13
Columbine High School massacre - 4/20/1999 - 13
Virginia Beach municipal building shooting - 5/31/2019 - 12
Thousand Oaks nightclub shooting - 11/7/2018 - 12
Washington Navy Yard shooting - 9/16/2013 - 12
Aurora theater shooting - 7/20/2012 - 12
Tree of Life synagogue shooting - 10/27/2018 - 11
Boulder supermarket shooting - 3/22/2021 - 10
Santa Fe High School shooting - 5/18/2018 - 10
Red Lake massacre - 3/21/2005 - 10
GMAC massacre - 6/18/1990 - 10
San Jose VTA shooting - 5/26/2021 - 9
Dayton entertainment district shooting - 8/4/2019 - 9
Umpqua Community College shooting - 10/1/2015 - 9
Charleston Church Shooting - 6/17/2015 - 9
Hartford Beer Distributor shooting - 8/3/2010 - 9
Westroads Mall shooting - 12/5/2007 - 9
Atlanta day trading spree killings - 7/29/1999 - 9
101 California Street shootings - 7/1/1993 - 9
Standard Gravure shooting - 9/14/1989 - 9
FedEx warehouse shooting - 4/15/2021 - 8
Atlanta massage parlor shootings - 3/16/2021 - 8
Seal Beach shooting - 10/12/2011 - 8
Carthage nursing home shooting - 3/29/2009 - 8
Goleta postal shootings - 1/30/2006 - 8
Wedgwood Baptist Church shooting - 9/15/1999 - 8


The United States has had the most mass shootings of any country. In one 2017 study published in Time magazine by criminologist Adam Lankford, it was estimated that 31% of public mass shootings occur in the US, although it has only 5% of the world's population. The study concludes that “The United States and other nations with high firearm ownership rates may be particularly susceptible to future public mass shootings, even if they are relatively peaceful or mentally healthy according to other national indicators.”

And tho Adam Lankford's analyst was scrutinized he later revised his statement above with more research clarifying that although the United States is not significantly more likely than most other countries to have mass shootings that are committed by more than one person, such as the university massacre in Kenya, the United States from 1998-2012 did in fact have more than six times its global share of public mass shooters who attacked alone. Using the data from Lott and Moody's 2019 study of mass shootings, Lankford explains that "41 of all 138 public mass shootings by single perpetrators worldwide were committed in the United States. That represents 29.7%. Because America had in those years approximately 4.5% of the world's population (according to Lott and Moody's calculations), this indicates that based on their own data, the United States had more than six times its global share of public mass shooters who attacked alone (29.7/4.5 = 6.6).

Mass shootings have also been observed to be followed by an increase in the purchase of weapons, but does not seem to create an increased feeling of needing guns in either gun owners or non-owners.

It is crazy we can't sue gun companies.
But it looks like that if finally changing.

And who would of thought of all places, Mexico is suing the US gun companies.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexico-...rt-11628108966
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