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Originally Posted by Croco
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Remen:
If you haven't seen that fucked pathing happening recently then you haven't been paying attention. It's happened to both riot and vanq. Also most of the time when we have trouble getting a boss through 4way and past snow piles it always seems to be when random vanq members have put agro into the mob/train, but on all of your recent statue pulls riot doesn't fuck with your pulls for any reason and wow so weird they come in nice and clean.
There's nothing standard about what has been happening with warping in kael so saying that the standard of kill 1 concede 2 applies is just ignoring a completely new set of variables that neither guild had any hand in creating. What should've happened was both guilds going to the GM's to ask what the deal was and a little benefit of the doubt given to both parties from each other, like we gave you guys when you've had warping issues just recently.
Credit where it's due you guys did concede 2x statue. Definitely not how that should've played out though as it was clear as crystal you took statue way past the line. That statue should've been dropped then you probably wouldn't have needed to concede any statues. You all killed it knowing full well it was an egregious kite that went way over the line. You had a whole team of people up there trying to pull him back.
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Do you have any proof whatsoever that Vanquish members have had any agro into your pulls? It sounds like you are parroting false information disseminated by your dishonest leadership. Our pulls come in nice and clean because it's not a difficult thing to do. I've pulled KDT, fjokar, and faction pulls from the KT throne room dozens of times since the last pathing patch and have never had a mob warp into the wall.
"You all killed it knowing full well it was an egregious kite that went way over the line."
This is also a lie, whoever is giving you this information is lying to you. I was there for that pull and in our voice comms we kept asking our pullers what happened and where the mob was and they told us it didn't get kited. They were obviously wrong, but we did not kill it knowing that it was a kite. It wasn't until we saw the fraps from the point of view of one of your players that we saw it was kited well beyond the line. So then we conceded the next two.
The why has never mattered in terms of a mob being kited, a tracker getting FTE, or other things that lead to a concede. Infractions happen, accidentally or not, because of a bug or not, and when this happens the next two are conceded. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, your puller acted in good faith running back to the KT castle, but once KT popped out at 4 way and started pathing to him he could have feigned death, capped out, run back towards 4 way, etc. He didn't and it turned into an undeniable kite.
My opinion is that your leadership made a calculated decision to just take their chances with the GMs, because worst case scenario they will rule against you guys and all that will happen is you will be forced to concede two KTs anyways. Stuff like this is acting in bad faith and is an example of why relations between our guilds have broken down.