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Originally Posted by Bardp1999
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but this isnt Battle Toads bro
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I'm glad to see someone acknowledge how hard Battle Toads was. I consider myself a hardcore gamer, and I remember how insanely difficult that game was 30 years ago. You get like 2 chances at something you've never seen before, you have a millisecond to react with perfect timing, or you die and have to start over at the very beginning of the game. During my deployment we had an emulator, and I dedicated an entire deployment to beating Battle Toads. Even with being able to save the game at points I knew were difficult it was still insanely hard to beat and I can't remember if I actually beat the game or not.
But anytime I mention how it was one of the hardest games of all time, people casually say it was easy and that they beat it and I'm always hella suspect about this statement because of the fact that the people saying this are typically not even good gamers. So it's like how does this kid who sucks at Call of Duty... suddenly be beating Battle Toads eZpZ?? Calling bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Jibartik
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thats live and dont you get mana regen faster on live? ofc enchanter is easier there.
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Enchanters on Live are actually more challenging to play because they have been nerfed, and the mana regen being faster thing is kind of fake news. People mistake other players having mana potions that cost real life money for there being less mana issues. On P99 I can play most classes in the game without clarity. Does it suck? Yeah. On TLP a lot of times it feels like if you don't have clarity then you can't even play the game -- I literally spent my real life money on mana potions for my Cleric because I genuinely NEEDED them to even be viable. Enchanters don't even have to worry about not having clarity.
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but yes at 24 you can solo najina as one where as my ranger on live is struggling at 24 to solo kerrans lol
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That's another thing I'm talking about. I solo'd a Cleric to level 40 in Unrest (Unrest can be very dead on P99 Blue, giving my Cleric free reign of Unrest late at night). The insane amount of effort it would take to clear the 2nd floor, having a stopwatch, timing absolutely every thing perfect, tracking the respawn on like 10 different mobs etc., struggling heavily with mana because I have no clarity and am having to switch to Charisma items to Lull etc.
On my Enchanter? No game-plan required. I walk upstairs, press charm and just start killing literally everything without a care in the world. Same thing with Lower Guk and my Cleric. Like last week I was literally running a stop watch on a million different mobs as I ran back and forth from Sentinel to Ass/Sup/Rit. I can already tell you that my Enchanter is not going to give a fuck. I can literally skip most mobs (Clerics dont have this luxury), and I can charm and kill anything, kill my pet, go AFK for 30 minutes, come back and rinse and repeat. On my Cleric? Yeah okay, bud. You gotta' have all of those mobs split 10 minutes apart due to slow mana regen, so if you go AFK for 10 minutes you're going to fucking die.
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Originally Posted by Kief
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But it is more focus intensive than playing a cleric, period.
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Disagree. When I play my Cleric I literally don't get to go AFK ever. If I go afk, the entire group shuts down. On my Enchanter "kill this pet, I need to go AFK." Go take a shit, and come back to realize I've been getting experience this entire time -- if I do this on my Cleric I either come back dead or come back to a really angry group which is not good considering it's insanely hard to find a group as the most boxed class in the game. Also on Cleric I'm always OOM (even with clarity), and having to time complete heals perfectly, 5 different buffs on multiple players since I'll never have enough mana to buff everyone at once (yes, magic and fire resist is mandatory for Sol B, you want someone to die because a sonic bat stunned them, a bug put boil blood on them), and I'm having to spam cure poison on every fight while also getting massive aggro.
Enchanter? Park pet 10 feet away, and wait for charm to break while this mob does everything for you. No one is going to kick you out of your group for going AFK, and most groups will always stack Enchanters so even if you suck, people will still invite you for clarity, haste, and an OP pet.
Now I am sure there is a lot of bad players out there, but I take my role very seriously in this game no matter what class I am playing. For instance last night when I'm hasting every player, I'm genuinely wondering why I see no Shaman buffs on a single player since we have two Shamans and one is full mana. I'm wondering why I don't see players canni dancing. I'm wondering why I'm the only person who is slowing mobs when my slow sucks comparatively and I have a lot more shit going on than these idiots do. So in this sense, Shaman must be a super easy class, but we both know that a good Shaman literally works their ass off and that these Shamans were just bad.
And no bullshit, SK and Rogue have been way more exhausting for me to play than any other class. On SK, I'm pulling mobs, constantly OOM because I don't have time to meditate, so I have trouble holding aggro, and my blood starts to boil because it becomes painfully apparent how AFK your group is when you're literally beating on a mob by yourself after bringing it back to a group and it feels like you are working your ass off while these idiots aren't even playing the game, and meanwhile you have another dude stealing mobs from your camp and it feels like your group should be helping you with that, but nah. That ain't going to happen.
And then Rogue, it's like, mashing the fuck out of backstab, missing half the time because retards in your group have no sense of positional awareness, and constantly move the mob when you're trying to time backstab, and cause you to front-stab instead, mashing the fuck out of evasion, turning attack on and off to evade, and pick pocket etc. And then I have to pull half the time anyways, which unlike Monk, is extremely dangerous, so I'm back into this situation where I'm pulling all the time while my group sits there doing jack shit, and then I gotta give my left hand carpal tunnel because of much shit I'm mashing the entire encounter. I literally had to key-bind backstab to my mouse because any good Rogue already knows what I'm talking about. When you're using WASD with your left hand to strafe around behind a mob attempting to backstab in the brief second you can actually see it's back, how are you going to also use your left hand to press backstab? It's virtually impossible, so you have to bind it on your mouse to be able to backstab while steering.
But again, I bet most Rogue players don't know what disarm is, and don't care if they're not backstabbing because their group is constantly moving the fucking mob. God damn I get mad just thinking about it. Like why is this retarded Monk standing on the same side as me when he knows he's going to pull aggro every 5 seconds?