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Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Five states - Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington - hold their elections primarily by mail and have documented almost no cases of cheating. Oregon, for instance, has sent out more than 100 million mail ballots since 2000 and reported around a dozen cases of proven fraud

You'll have to forgive me for not being filled with confidence in our system because 5 liberal state governments happened to not discover large amounts of evidence of what would be seen as a giant black eye on their voting procedure

also,

There are hardly any documented cases of female prostitutes being arrested. I conclude that this means there are hardly any female prostitutes in the USA (the real reason: police don't see it as a policing priority, due to most female prostitutes being victims themselves)

I hardly ever hear about people getting arrested for buying drugs off the dark web. Therefore, almost no one is buying drugs off the dark web (real reason: law enforcement still sucks at detecting it. But for all our advancements in cyber technology, good old unpatched, un-updated TOR is still > law enforcement)

And seeing the facts, stricter ID laws for voting won't affect fraud but it will affect turn out and let me just say one thing

So we should defer to the experts but this sounds like an expert assertation to me

Anything that lessen voter turn out can be seen as antidemocratic if voting is the only power you wield.

Think about that.

If we removed all security measures we would have the max amount of people voting. Therefore we shouldn't have any security measures if voter turnout is our sole priority. If having to write your name on your ballet feels like too much effort for 1 person, that rule just lessened voter turnout. So obviously we shouldn't be making blanket statements about voter turnout, but I do agree with the concept that lessening voter turnout on a large scale could be seen as anti-democratic