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Originally Posted by Patriam1066
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My point was, as always, the answer is somewhere between “Israelis are war criminals and the Palestinians dindu nuffin” and the opposing position that asserts “the Palestinians are terrorist animals and get what they deserve”. Centrism and compromise are underrated positions
Also, this conflict will never be solved. All middle eastern people hate one another too much. The quicker we completely get off of oil, the better.
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Actually, before America came in the region and decided that in order to get a better foothold, it would be easier if people regressed back into theocratic ways, jews and muslims lived in relative peace.
Actually when the jews were expelled from europe, they mostly went to either south America or in the maghreb. Lawrence of Arabia explains well (yet subtly) why the area is a shit show.
Colonial powers drew the lines of their borders, very straight and putting minorities in power or erasing them completely and added a clause tot he constitution they wrote for these countries: if unstable, we can come stabilize it. (in the case of France, only France can interfere with the former colonies)
Palestine being an occupied state in an ongoing war against Israel and having no official army, cannot be judged by the same standards.
You would not judge an American taking up arms against an invader.
You really would not.
What's the difference here?
Also Hamas get a bad rep when throwing rockets but nobody mention them when Israel bomb an hospital and Hamas provide medical attention to the citizens because few people in the ASA know that there is two wings of hamas.
A social one and a military one.
And people saying that Israel has the right to defend itself miss the point that Israel could sue for peace at any time, given that Palestine is pretty much annihilated yet they prefer continuing the war and occupying so in that regard, who could refuse to argue that Palestine also has a right to defend itself? Against a much stronger aggressor who is occupying their territory for the past 67 years.
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Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater
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Better as in "by the time the world drops their dependence on oil and the economies of middle eastern countries collapse, several of them will have attained nuclear arsenals and harbor a massive resentment against each other and the rest of the world"?
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I mean right now, USA has nukes and according to the last president, most of the world is a shit hole and if we have nukes, why not use them?
There is a post about Cucknadians, major allies to the USA and there is a pervasive myth about American exceptionalism so I guess you already have a nuclear armed rogue country who look down on every country with major contempt. Projection is great. (edit: I forgot the part about harbouring a massive resentment against each others and look at how united the country is after the last pres who did everything he could to sow it back together.)