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Old 05-14-2021, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Right, and as I've said: people did charm in classic. That guide proves what we already knew: that charming was possible on live, just as it is here.

What I'm saying is that there were 20 guides on the page I linked, and as you found a whole bunch more on the rest of the site ... but you found one on charming. If live players had all the same tools back then we have now (and we agree: they did) ... and if it was as easy/safe/effective as it is here ... why wasn't it the topic of 50+% of the guides?

The reply here seems to be "on live, only one in a thousand ever tried using their class spells to get XP, and he had a terrible Internet connection" ... and there's absolutely some truth to that! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it doesn't fully explain the gigantic delta between us and live: many did have stable connections, there were tons of guides, forum discussions, etc. about the best way to level ... but while charm is obviously better here, it was barely mentioned there. Why?
Maybe because Enc's didn't need to solo. They were always wanted in groups because of haste, clarity and mez. Grouping was safer and more interesting and the way the game was meant to be played. People didn't play EQ to solo. If Enc's didn't have those grouping tools, I'm sure charm soloing would have been a big deal, but they have a great group toolkit so they can level either way.

I didn't play an Enc on classic live, but my brother did. He def would charm in groups because it was fun seeing monsters beat on monsters. He never got the idea to charm solo because he'd be getting tells to join groups wherever he went. It just wasn't really needed.

I saw people with charmed sand giants running through Oasis back on live. More of a vanity thing than anything, but people did use the spell. They just didn't put all the pieces together (GCD clickies, Goblin Ring instant break, etc.) to create a crazy charm solo system, but those tools were there and, like a lot of things in P99, have been defined and streamlined thanks to the wiki for everyone to learn.

And really, what does it matter? It's still hard to charm solo. You need a pretty solid understanding of EQ combat (aggro, GCD, targeting, pet control, etc.). Someone totally new to the game could not, in any way, easily charm solo. It takes practice like bard swarm kiting. The risk is built in and every Enchanter WILL have deaths guaranteed.