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Originally Posted by G13
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Masks are a conformity test. Nothing more.
I expected a better response. Maybe you aren't as intelligent as Raev suggests
Clearly there is a partisan divide with masks and their effectiveness at stopping the spread of Covid. This is textbook Hegelian Dialectic. Governments have been using the pandemic as a massive power grab and they don't plan on giving that power back (Look at Oregon)
Instead of providing a large random clinical trial that proves masks stop the spread of Covid or even Influenza, you created a strawmen attacking the credibility of the original link. That solves the problem of you actually having to provide any evidence masks do something
You also severely handicapped your own credibility by tossing out lazy links from Politifact, Rolling Stone, Wikipedia and even invoking The Koch brothers like they are akin to Hitler or something. It's absurd. If anyone has a credibility problem it's you.
If I'm wrong, provide the evidence masks work. Currently, there is no consensus that they really do anything, especially the vast majority of masks people are wearing (including home made masks)
As I stated before, medicine (like everything else lefties get their dirty hands on) has become political, so any source that contradicts the face diaper/lock down narrative becomes CNN vs Fox News. That's really all your doing. Disguising a political argument as a medical argument.
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So, it's reasonable to assume, you didn't read the Rolling Stone article. In it are details revolving around the father of the Koch brothers and how he conducted business with Stalin (albeit with some reluctance later), who is akin to Hitler or something. This isn't absurd. If anyone has a credibility problem, it's the Koch brothers. In the other link, Charles Koch even admitted "boy, did we really screw up" which was the larger point being made.
Please name sources that you would consider to be credible. Also, unless I missed a post somewhere, you still have yet to name any of those scientists you alluded to earlier; doing so would help your credibility.
If medicine has become political, as you say, than all governments with conflicting ideologies would actually be collaborating in secret against their citizens, using the need for masks and vaccines as opportunity to control. If that is what you're arguing than it begs the question: Is the earth flat? Or better yet, do vaccines cause autism?
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Originally Posted by G13
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As I stated before, medicine (like everything else lefties get their dirty hands on) has become political, so any source that contradicts the face diaper/lock down narrative becomes CNN vs Fox News. That's really all your doing. Disguising a political argument as a medical argument.
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Everything is political or at least can be construed as being politically motivated. Basically I could make a similar argument and say that all you're really doing is pushing postmodernist views while claiming to be scientific, with no credible evidence to back that claim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQA0e0UYzI
I already provided a link earlier which demonstrated the effectiveness of mask use long before the topic became so contentious, though I have not had the opportunity to doublecheck all of the evidence associated with it. That's still better than what you've offered which leads into one final point.
Using big words won't win the argument, not with me at least. Hegelian Dialectic? We aren't reenacting the scene from Good Will Hunting. This isn't a bar and there aren't any girls around to try and impress.