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Originally Posted by Jibartik
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She dropped the knife, yes I know when you have 2 officers holding pistols while she stands there the only option seems like to shoot.
But that is because the steps the officers chose resulted in that being the only option.
Besides, it is irrelevant if you think its justifiable or not, because if these are the steps we take, then like I said: You're going to break eggs.
If you dont like breaking eggs then its time to stop listening to Toxigen when it comes to best practices for law enforcement.
"have mental illness or anxiety- get killed by police" is what your little play stupid games phrase should be.
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Jib, you're really confusing me on this one. Are you saying you would have preferred a mental health/social worker knock on the door and get stabbed instead of the police officer? How would you feel if that officer or health worker got stabbed in the brachial artery (in their arm) and bled out on the sidewalk instead of the aggressor - maybe never realizing how badly they were injured due to the adrenaline? Oh well, part of the job? Good thing the murderer didn't die? Would you be here saying, man, this system works great!?
The life of that first responder is important, too. Policing is difficult work and variables can change quickly. It's not like getting stressed about a lunch rush at McDonalds when you're on the line or having your boss holding a deadline over your head at the office. This was a routine stop by this house to check on a roommate domestic disturbance, btw. The responding officer had no idea that this person had mental health issues as claimed by the mother. I'm willing to bend on some very questionable situations regarding mental health and police where they can at least engage with the subject, but this was not escalated by the police and looks to be a poor example of the bad in the system if you're trying to make the point that we need more mental health professionals in law enforcement and an overall different approach. They had no way of knowing if this person, who already proved to be a threat without provocation, had another knife or a gun so they had to be on the defensive and ready for the next attack. You can in hindsight say, oh well these officers should have..., but this situation could have also gone even more negative for the officers if we're doing 'oh, wells'.
Maybe I'm missing prior context from you. Provide some clarity here for me.
"have mental illness or anxiety- get killed by police" -- Literally no one is saying that as far as I can tell, but most people don't believe a mental illness should be an excuse for deadly behavior, either. I highly doubt those officers went home happy about the way that day went down.